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Be safe. - Bowser - 5/24/2002 7:55:54 PM
- Leno and Letterman are counting that. ø (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/24/2002 4:54:18 PM
- Re: Be paranoid - Tom Brosz - 5/24/2002 10:46:36 AM

Europe & US Policy - p - 5/24/2002 12:27:15 PM
- Re: Europe & US Policy - Raoul - 5/24/2002 6:10:57 PM

Extremist Stowaways Sneak Into U.S. . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 9:39:19 AM
- Re: Extremist Stowaways Sneak Into U.S. . . . - Bowser - 5/23/2002 10:30:20 AM
  - Interesting question, Bowser - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 11:50:31 AM
    - Informants - FrankC - 5/23/2002 3:23:02 PM
      - Yeah, but it's the Coast Guard n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 5/24/2002 5:35:34 PM
    - Re: I would say they were . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 12:02:49 PM
  - Re: The container(s) used . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 10:59:47 AM
    - Re: The container(s) used . . . - Bowser - 5/23/2002 11:14:42 AM
      - Re: Obviously, I think the evidence was with the container(s) . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 11:54:37 AM
        
        Containers - Bowser - 5/23/2002 1:29:27 PM
        
        Re: In some countries, that's true . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 3:34:30 PM
- The people who are laughing at he attempts to - ebnelson - 5/23/2002 10:25:12 AM
  - sigh the attempts etc. (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/23/2002 10:29:57 AM

U.S. Seen Slow to Act in S. Asia Crisis . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 9:51:50 AM
- Hmmm? - Bowser - 5/23/2002 10:44:42 AM
  - Wish the Left would make up its mind... - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 11:48:29 AM
    - I can't speak for "the left", whatever that is... - alcaray - 5/24/2002 5:25:28 PM
      - Re: Walk softly, and carry a big stick. - Tom Brosz - 5/24/2002 10:58:10 AM
    - Re: Wish the Left would make up its mind... - Bowser - 5/23/2002 12:21:25 PM

Last Weekend: Ten Killed as U.S. Warplane Bombs Wedding in Eastern Afghanistan . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 3:58:17 PM
- Most likely just a pack of lies - Matt Burley - 5/24/2002 11:05:26 AM
  - Re: Possibly . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 1:47:12 PM
- Ten Killed - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 5:35:42 PM
  - I recall a passage from 'Lawrence of Arabia"... - alcaray - 5/24/2002 4:51:14 PM

Twenty facts about Israel and the Middle East - Matt Burley - 5/22/2002 4:43:10 PM
- Re: To colonize or not.... - Raoul - 5/23/2002 7:12:00 PM
  - Re: To colonize or not.... - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 8:18:35 AM
    - Re: To colonize or not.... - alcaray - 5/23/2002 8:51:59 AM
      - Re: To colonize or not.... - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 9:10:47 AM
- This is your idea of "fair and balanced"??? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 5/23/2002 5:37:51 PM
- Re: Truths are not facts . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 1:55:11 PM
  - Re: Truths are not facts??? - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 8:06:52 AM
    - Re: Here are the only 2 facts I find relevant to the ‘current’ situation . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 9:00:21 AM
- So many mistakes it one piece that it is almost impossible to take them one at a time - E.P. Grondine - 5/23/2002 8:41:40 AM
- Fact one. - Bowser - 5/22/2002 5:05:42 PM
  - Your obscure, irrelevant and misleading quotes not withstanding - Matt Burley - 5/23/2002 11:36:49 AM
    - Re: Well . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 1:58:08 PM
      - Someone else's land - LJ - 5/23/2002 4:05:07 PM
        
        Re: Yes, someone else's land . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 4:55:07 PM
        
        Re: Yes, someone else's land . . . - LJ - 5/23/2002 7:13:22 PM
        
        Re: Well, maybe Australians and North & South Americans should all move back to Europe . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 7:34:13 PM
        
        Sorry but Palestine was NEVER a country - Matt Burley - 5/23/2002 11:03:43 AM
        
        Neither was Israel. This is a ridiculous chain of nonreason. ø (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/24/2002 3:09:40 PM
        
        Re: I do stand corrected on just about this entire thread . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 11:50:35 AM
        
        But who and what is Palestine??? - Matt Burley - 5/23/2002 12:29:31 PM
        
        Re: Palestine is primarily Arab-Muslim and Arab-Christian . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 3:33:00 PM
        
        Right, and British Mandate Palestine was to be primarily an Arab state with a tiny Jewish state - Matt Burley - 5/24/2002 12:08:01 PM
        
        Re: And Israel is not . . . ? - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 12:44:22 PM
        
        Wall may be useful - Matt Burley - 5/24/2002 12:57:54 PM
        
        Re: Really . . . ? - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 11:15:23 AM
        
        Rants? - LJ - 5/23/2002 9:55:50 AM
        
        Re: Poor word choice . . . - D. spires - 5/23/2002 10:05:14 AM
        
        Seems like it. - Bowser - 5/23/2002 7:32:55 PM
        
        2000 years vs. 50? Yes it matters. - ebnelson - 5/23/2002 10:24:24 AM
        
        Re: Someone else's land - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 4:44:53 PM
        
        Thanks for the outline, Dave (n/t) (n/t) - LJ - 5/23/2002 7:14:16 PM
      - Exactly, Dan. If the UN gave it away, they should have IMPOSED a solution - ebnelson - 5/23/2002 2:05:25 PM
        
        Re: it appears that 'force' is not a solution . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 2:23:35 PM

New Version of Email Scam . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 10:12:28 AM
- Zimbabwe, too - Bowser - 5/24/2002 2:11:07 PM

Bush Flies into a Row Over Iran Threat . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 10:57:58 AM
- Iran - Bowser - 5/24/2002 12:32:24 PM

Osama Crony Made Threat . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 10:46:52 AM

The Search for Telecom's Next Visionaries . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 9:26:29 AM
- Re: The Search for Telecom's Next Visionaries . . . - p - 5/24/2002 10:36:42 AM

U.S. Forces Kill One, Detain 50 in Afghan Raid . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 9:58:00 AM
- Troops Raid Taliban Compound . . . - D. Spires - 5/24/2002 10:36:08 AM

Islamic Terrorism sneaks into Europe…through the Bosnian war-ravaged communities - Matt Burley - 5/22/2002 3:55:50 PM
- Re: Islamic Terrorism sneaks into Europe…through the Bosnian war-ravaged communities - SM - 5/23/2002 7:40:15 PM
  - Re: Islamic Terrorism sneaks into Europe…through the Bosnian war-ravaged communities - SM - 5/23/2002 7:47:13 PM
    - Anti-Semitism, hatred and history - Mary Anne - 5/23/2002 3:31:23 PM
- Re: Interesting . . . - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 2:54:22 PM
  - Someone has taken "Field of Dreams" too seriously - Mary Anne - 5/23/2002 3:49:25 PM
    - Fields of Dreams - Bowser - 5/23/2002 7:38:23 PM
      - Pardon me for asking but - Matt Burley - 5/23/2002 11:08:39 AM
        
        OK. - Bowser - 5/23/2002 12:42:01 PM
        
        Re: On that, I can agree . . .. - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 3:38:01 PM
    - Re: Someone has taken - Marcia - 5/23/2002 5:15:19 PM

The Jenin "Massacre:" Anatomy of a propaganda campaign. - Tom Brosz - 5/21/2002 8:06:00 AM
- Part three of the article - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 12:02:50 PM
- How about this one? - Bowser - 5/21/2002 11:33:52 AM
  - Re: How about this one? - Tom Brosz - 5/21/2002 12:11:02 PM
    - Re: How about this one? - Bowser - 5/21/2002 12:37:10 PM
- Jenin.. - Dave Goodrich - 5/21/2002 9:35:28 AM
  - Ridiculous comparison - Matt Burley - 5/21/2002 12:28:26 PM
    - Re: Ridiculous comparison - Dave Goodrich - 5/22/2002 5:58:48 PM
      - terrorism etc. - FrankC - 5/22/2002 7:16:03 PM
        
        Re: terrorism etc. - RobVG - 5/22/2002 7:45:13 PM
        
        Trans-Jordan - FrankC - 5/22/2002 10:49:45 AM
        
        Thanks Frank - RobVG - 5/23/2002 7:38:13 PM
        
        Re: Trans-Jordan - Scott - 5/22/2002 11:03:55 AM
        
        Re: terrorism etc. - Dave Goodrich - 5/22/2002 10:39:17 AM
        
        For when you are rested - FrankC - 5/22/2002 4:40:41 PM
        
        Frank :0) - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 7:27:31 PM
        
        Borders - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 11:30:44 AM
        
        Re: Borders - Dave Goodrich - 5/22/2002 12:13:45 PM
      - Completely wrong. Palestine was never a nation. - Matt Burley - 5/22/2002 9:22:16 AM
        
        I seem to remember reading... - Scott - 5/22/2002 10:28:52 AM
        
        Re: I seem to remember reading... - Dave Goodrich - 5/22/2002 11:16:05 AM
  - After 9-11 the answer is probably yes. - Scott - 5/21/2002 10:36:52 AM
    - Re: After 9-11 the answer is probably yes. - Dave Goodrich - 5/21/2002 10:49:56 AM
      - Oops. - Bowser - 5/21/2002 11:41:06 AM
      - Of Course not. - Scott - 5/21/2002 11:26:02 AM
- Tiresome - Bowser - 5/21/2002 8:32:07 AM
  - Re: Too Tiresome . . . - D. spires - 5/21/2002 9:06:18 AM
    - Remember when Noriega's cocain turned into "voodoo powder" turned into tamale flour? LOL! n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 5/21/2002 10:57:53 AM
      - No. But that's pretty darn funny if true. - Scott - 5/21/2002 11:28:09 AM
    - Next. - Bowser - 5/21/2002 10:07:05 AM
      - What? - Bowser - 5/21/2002 1:27:58 PM
        
        Re: Um . . . - D. Spires - 5/21/2002 1:33:46 PM
        
        OK. It's not "that" many people. - Bowser - 5/21/2002 2:00:26 PM
        
        Re: You can go back to the sandbox now . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 12:28:48 PM
      - Re: The exception . . . - D. Spires - 5/21/2002 12:21:21 PM
  - Where is the list of Names? Who was killed? - Scott - 5/21/2002 8:36:11 AM
- Additional article - Tom Brosz - 5/21/2002 8:10:38 AM
  - great Article. We need more examples of the American media getting it right. - Scott - 5/21/2002 8:43:22 AM

Birth of a new country - Raoul - 5/19/2002 3:39:35 PM
- Amen! (n/t) (n/t) - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 6:37:01 PM
- Clinton leads delegation to E Timor. - RobVG - 5/19/2002 5:00:06 PM
  - Indonesia’s military occupation of East Timor - Matt Burley - 5/19/2002 5:26:54 PM
    - Re: Indonesia’s military occupation of East Timor - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 7:01:52 PM
    - Re: Well, it's not THE Holy Land . . . - D. Spires - 5/20/2002 3:44:50 PM
- Re: Birth of a new country - Tom Brosz - 5/19/2002 4:07:34 PM
  - T-I-C - Bowser - 5/19/2002 12:23:01 PM
    - Re: T-I-C - Tom Brosz - 5/20/2002 3:53:17 PM
    - Re: Good Twist . . . - D. Spires - 5/20/2002 3:41:37 PM
    - Come on Bowser. Your letting the Unionized left down... - Scott - 5/20/2002 9:16:53 AM

Watch what you send in E-mail... - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 6:18:14 PM

A qoute................ - Dave Goodrich - 5/22/2002 12:46:18 PM
- Ask and you shall receive - Mary Anne - 5/22/2002 1:36:52 PM
  - Re: Ask and you shall receive - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 12:07:44 PM
  - Re: Ask and you shall receive - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 12:06:38 PM
    - "97 Cabernet? Just wish I could afford it as anything other then a rare treat." - alcaray - 5/23/2002 5:21:13 PM
      - Re: - Dave Goodrich - 5/23/2002 5:50:11 PM
        
        Re: - alcaray - 5/23/2002 6:05:18 PM
  - FYI Dave... - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 3:53:43 PM
- Go to bed already. - RobVG - 5/22/2002 1:34:06 PM

Thoughts on detering terrorism - p - 5/23/2002 4:30:38 PM

Chavez government tied to pre-coup killings in Venezuela - Matt Burley - 5/22/2002 3:26:19 PM
- A dead Chavez in a very brief time will be the best outcome available. ø (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/23/2002 2:04:04 PM

Was waiting for this one...told ya so. - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 11:04:02 AM
- Now that's too bad. - Bowser - 5/22/2002 12:14:18 PM
  - For the record, the Israelis do arrest their own people. - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 3:55:04 PM
  - Re: Torture is not Israeli policy, B . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 2:30:18 PM
    - We've been through this. - Bowser - 5/22/2002 4:10:43 PM
      - Re: Policy is not a matter of opinion . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/23/2002 1:43:50 PM
      - Torture - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2002 9:06:29 AM
        
        That's not OK. - Bowser - 5/23/2002 1:22:52 PM

Airport Shooting - p - 5/23/2002 8:35:51 AM
- Re: Airport Shooting - Marcia - 5/23/2002 12:12:07 PM

Britain Recalls Pakistan Diplomats . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 7:23:30 PM

Troops Weather Winds of War . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 7:16:00 PM

Report Paints 7 Countries as Promoting Terror . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 6:58:07 PM
- U.S. State Department Terrorism Report Names 7 States Sponsors of Terrorism . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 2:13:56 PM

Don't know if it's true or not. - Bowser - 5/21/2002 6:15:39 PM
- Re: Don't know if it's true or not. - Tom Brosz - 5/21/2002 6:54:59 PM
  - Re: Don't know if it's true or not. - Bowser - 5/22/2002 5:11:25 PM
    - Re: Don't know if it's true or not. - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2002 11:14:22 AM
      - Condaleeza Rice - Bowser - 5/22/2002 12:02:32 PM

Israel Kills Two Palestinians in West Bank, Abducts A Dozen . . . - D. Spires - 5/22/2002 2:04:15 PM
- Bullseye! Israel kills regional commander of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Terrorists! - Matt Burley - 5/22/2002 3:45:58 PM

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