"Are you really saying that people who receive unfair treatment ought to just sit down and shut up?"
I don't recall saying that.
"The reason the courts ruled against religious displays paid for by public money or compulsory religious rituals in public institutions is because these things were challenged in court. Usually, the challengers were non-Christians because Christians have been the beneficiaries of religious favoritism."
In this case I don't think non-Christian are receiving unfair treatment, anymore than literally millions of other decisions made by politicians that require tax dollars to be spent on things that not only some minority may disagree that the money is not well spent, but even a majority may believe it's only benefiting a small number of people. And let's not forget the obvious that these court cases themselves cost tax dollars.
Yeah, so now that you bring it up, I think it's a no-brainer that these "non-Christians" should just sit down and shut-up.
But more significantly the courts should have toss this kind of stuff out and not even heard these cases.
"The abortion issue has to do with women controlling all aspects of their own personal biology, and with the belief in the soul. Some people's belief in the soul should not trump other people's right to control their own personal bodies, according to the law. We have a right to be secure in our persons. That's in the Fourth Amendment."
It's more legislating from the bench- it wasn't a constitutional right, it was made into one by court decision. It was based on idea that these noble and wise judges know better than the America public.
"To say the courts caused Christian activism because they upheld the Constitutional separation of church and state in the First Amendment is like saying the courts caused any one of a number of public shootings because they have upheld the right to bear arms in the Second, or that they have caused unwanted pregnancies because they have upheld a woman's right to seek an abortion. People behave the way they behave."
You comparing apples to oranges. The courts by making abortion and constitutional right- thereby preventing citizens from passing state law which "inhibit this right" has energized the Christian activism. The courts legislating from the bench in regards to new laws regarding "separation of church and state" has also energized the Christian activism. And if the federal court grants gays the right to marriage this has and will energize Christian activism. This is obvious and known by anyone who has been paying attention.
And the courts have not been upholding the Second Amendment- guns are banned in various areas and these bans have allowed shooting sprees. As for unwanted pregnancies, it's a scientific fact that a female doesn't get pregnant unless she is having sex. Maybe the solution is lesbian sex- at least they won't get pregnant.
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- "Freedom requires religion" (Mitt Romney)
- Does anyone here know what Mormons believe?
- Has anyone seen "The Mist"?
- re: "Freedom requires religion" (Mitt Romney) - OK, regarding Romney:
- A classy outlook on it from Al Gore
- re: "Freedom requires religion" (Mitt Romney)
- Well then you are free not to vote for him.
- Oppression
- no where in Romney's speech did he make any indication that he wants everyone to believe as he does.
- Oppression
- Then we have Fred Thompson...
- Wow...just bathing in the "tolerance" on this thread. (n/t)
- God I hate the "holier than thou" bullshit from religious freaks
- re: "Freedom requires religion" (Mitt Romney)
- That statement basically if mumbo gumbo
- God save me from Christianity
- Text of the speech
- Playing to the base
- re: "Freedom requires religion"
