Your following a fundamentally flawed line of logic based on an assumption that is in error as has been pointed out many times before. Treason is not universally defined as a crime. The crime of treason in the US is defined in the US const. It also includes a definition of the word treason in the preceding sentence which is consistent with many dictionary definitions which define it only as providing aid and comfort or aiding and abetting enemies of the state. You guys really don't know me very well if you think for a minute I didn't look up the definition in several sources when first challenged on the definition I was using.
Other countries use different definitions for the "crime" of treason. If you read the constitutional references MA supplied you will see that the founding fathers intentionally narrowed the definition of the crime of treason full well knowing the word had broader meaning. I'm using the general definition and all of you are just plain wrong to claim it can't be applied no matter how many hissy fits you throw or how many votes you take to redefine the English lanquage on this board.
Treason is fundamentally an act of putting personal interests ahead of the state, it is not the act of honestly criticizing your country's actions. That is something I think everyone can agree on that goes beyond the simple dictionary definitions. I don't think Gary ever intended to imply the latter despite comments which seem to imply otherwise. I have emphatically stated this myself numerous times yet see numerous attempts to twist my comments into criticism of Bush's war policy = treason. This is a huge factor in my holding the so called consensus here in contempt along with the huge effort at denying treason can be defined as anything other than a prosecutable crime.
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- JFC can't we just get along....
- Apparently not (n/t)
- The thread is now locked
- Thank you.
- Uh Frank This Is Flame
- Uh Mark
- Wow The Liberals Took A Poll And Voted Against The Conservative Position
- Point by point
- MA Wins Again
- re: MA Wins Again
- There You Go Again
- Criticism of Bush's war policy = treason
- Aye, there's the rub
- Hello
- I say again: Put up, or shut up.
- Sort of A good Point
- That being the case
- On the WMD Issue
- In The Interest Of Time - Blood For Oil (n/t)
- re: That being the case
- That being the case
- Sort of A good Point
- I say again: Put up, or shut up.
- Well said (n/t)
- Hello
- re: Criticism of Bush's war policy = treason
- Aye, there's the rub
- re: There You Go Again
- Criticism of Bush's war policy = treason
- There You Go Again
- re: MA Wins Again
- MA Wins Again
- "3) Providing aid and comfort to the enemy has nothing to do with treason and no reasonable person would think otherwise."
- Do you speak for all conservatives?
- Hell No
- around and around and around and around
- re: "Wow The Liberals Took A Poll And Voted Against The Conservative Position "
- OK It Is The Conservative Position
- OK It Is _A_ Conservative Position
- The Summary You Ignored
- Restriction of Speech
- Yes You've Got It Wrong
- As, apparently do you
- Why Do You People Ignore Half Of What I've Posted To Make Your Points?
- Wow
- Battle Fatigue?
- Scarred, battered, but unbowed
- Robert did not make a mistake, you did in misunderstanding him.
- We Both Did According To This
- That would be the apology and pledge I referred to. I could not have made my post much simpler. (n/t)
- We Both Did According To This
- Battle Fatigue?
- You people?
- Wow
- Why Do You People Ignore Half Of What I've Posted To Make Your Points?
- As, apparently do you
- Yes You've Got It Wrong
- And Ignored Again (n/t)
- Restriction of Speech
- I see The Plea For Consistency Once Again Falls On Deaf Ears
- re: OK It Is _A_ Conservative Position
- The Summary You Ignored
- OK It Is _A_ Conservative Position
- OK It Is The Conservative Position
- Hell No
- Delete Post Or Modify Name
- Point by point
- Wow The Liberals Took A Poll And Voted Against The Conservative Position
- This Is Flame
- Picking at scabs
- Uh Mark
- It isn't serious, is it FrankC -
- Is this one about me? (n/t)
