re:" We have a real fundamental disagreement over issues and are trying to get the other side to see our point"
No, you don't, and no, you're not. Your being a blustering fool and they are drawing you out and allowing every reader to see for themselves what quality of person and intellect you are. They know it, I know it, the only person who doesn't is you. Thats the problem, you don't have a clue and you don't even know it.
I'm tired of your disingenuous pseudo-retractions and attempts at juvenile reversal (accusing others of not dropping a lost point when its painfully, embarassingly obvious that is what you are doing, etc). You are welcome to last word. Where it was fun to bat you around and watch you fly into a frenzy, it has now become tedious.
DL