Good work, Art, and fact-based and understandable. I can dig it. But I disagree with your strategic conclusion: Boycotting the argument and disengaging won't help. That's what they do, not what we do.
There's not a snowball's chance in hell of changing Tom's mind, but that's not why I keep arguing with him. I do it for the practice. I'm pretty certain that Tom is representing mainstream Republican demagoguery, because as near as I can tell, all the Republicans have in the way of a strategy for the next two elections is "go negative", and Tom's "Democrats are evil!" riff is going to be the centerpiece. It isn't wasted effort to debunk Tom, because those rebuttals will be ammo against the Republican general smear campaign.
Actually I love seeing Tom stick to his guns, because it suggests that the Republican strategy is so weak that they'll be flattened at the polls. The theme Tom and other Republican demagogues are developing boils down to just this: "Republicans really suck, but Democrats suck worse". Debunk the smears against Democrats, and what's left is the self-admission "Republicans really suck". That and the fact that Republicans are essentially running against their own record after six years will buy a Democratic landslide.
There's light at the end of the tunnel, and I suggest that continuing to fight the rhetorical war will be a major component in that victory. This isn't the time to give up.
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- End to the Occupation
- Yo ER, you weenie!
- Time to re-label
- re: End to the Occupation
- It appears you have al Qaeda confused with the Taliban...... (n/t)
- Can I get fries with that?
- Nuclear safeguards
- re: Supersize?
- re: Absurd
- "We had to do it"
- You need to reread the president’s speeches prior to the war
- That would be 'speech', singular
- No speeches
- Allow me...
- Sure.
- Like I could stop you
- I wish I had your abilities to keep track of and find things.
- At best, liberation was a secondary, if not even tertiary reason
- You ought to review Powell's case before the UN (n/t)
- That would be 'speech', singular
- You need to reread the president’s speeches prior to the war
- (Sorry, meant for Tech1) (n/t)
- Why leave?
- Occupying countries where we are hated, creates terrorists. Or is that the goal? (n/t)
- John Howard on "creating terrorists"
- Could you reprint the BinLaden quotes where he talks about our occupation of his holy land? (n/t)
- While what Howard said was true, it was irrelevant to what alcaray said. (n/t)
- John Howard on "creating terrorists"
- re: Why leave?
- Why go in the first place?
- Occupying countries where we are hated, creates terrorists. Or is that the goal? (n/t)
- re: End to the Occupation
- I would agree
