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WWIII Europe update: "Hyper-nationalistic blondes" vs. "Spaghetti brains" - phil - 7/8/2003 1:58:55 PM

End of month four - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 5:00:22 PM
- re: End of month four - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 10:05:35 PM
  - You keep making these arguments like... - alcaray - 7/7/2003 11:13:53 PM
  - re: End of month four - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 10:57:50 PM
    - Yeti bit getting a bit old - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 11:44:10 PM
      - Yeah, but its still true. Still the same basic reasoning - Davin L. - 7/8/2003 1:33:14 AM
  - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 10:22:14 PM
    - cute, but - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 10:59:23 PM
- Dont' get your hopes up, as its only the end of month one - E.P. Grondine - 7/7/2003 9:35:50 PM
- re: End of month four - gbaikie - 7/7/2003 6:24:58 PM
  - Clinton was impeached. He wasn't convicted. The term confuses many people. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 9:48:02 PM
    - Yes, and on two articles. - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 9:57:51 PM
      - Only two - Mary Anne - 7/8/2003 2:44:14 AM
        
        I stand corrected - Davin L. - 7/8/2003 3:32:22 AM
  - re: End of month four - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 6:42:34 PM
    - re: End of month four - gbaikie - 7/8/2003 1:19:28 AM
- You do understand... - FrankC - 7/7/2003 6:16:40 PM
  - Hi Frank - McFly - 7/7/2003 9:57:11 PM
    - I think I understand - FrankC - 7/7/2003 10:09:29 PM
  - re: Liberia not like Iraq - Raoul - 7/7/2003 9:38:35 PM
    - I know Liberia is different - FrankC - 7/7/2003 10:14:16 PM
  - re: You do understand... - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 6:38:38 PM
  - re: You dont understand... - Tony - 7/7/2003 6:36:27 PM
    - Take yer pick - FrankC - 7/7/2003 9:58:50 PM
- We don't have Sadam's head either - Scott Evil - 7/7/2003 6:10:20 PM

Wondered why it took so long for someone to notice this... - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 9:42:23 PM
- re: Wondered why it took so long for someone to notice this... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2003 10:47:33 PM

Buddy Ebsen: 1908 - 2003 . . . - D. Spires - 7/7/2003 10:11:07 PM

Isalm is Love update - injecting innocents via poisonous syringes - p - 7/7/2003 10:05:35 PM

Bush on Iraqi rebels- - Davin L. - 7/2/2003 7:49:55 PM
- re: So much to rally behind . . . - D. Spires - 7/3/2003 1:17:11 AM
- Maybe he should use a more diplomatic tone with regard to Sadam's freedom fighters. - Scott - 7/2/2003 9:08:25 PM
  - What do you know Scott? - Lindy - 7/3/2003 2:14:58 AM
    - 'Most rebels are to the right' Please enlighten us (n/t) - ebnelson - 7/5/2003 2:07:02 PM
    - Re: Leftists in Iraq. It was called the Baath Socialist Party for a reason. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 9:02:25 AM
      - If I recall the history, the Baathist movement is a direct descendant of the NAZIs (n/t) - ebnelson - 7/5/2003 2:09:39 PM
  - re: Maybe he should use a more diplomatic tone with regard to Sadam's freedom fighters. - Davin L. - 7/2/2003 9:36:20 PM
  - re: Naw . . . - D. Spires - 7/2/2003 9:25:46 PM
- He speaks for the average citizen - FrankC - 7/2/2003 9:03:30 PM
  - re: He speaks for the average citizen - Davin L. - 7/2/2003 9:40:40 PM
    - No, The King said this instead - FrankC - 7/3/2003 12:36:01 AM
      - You really think that quote from Shakespeare means "bring it on"? - alcaray - 7/3/2003 5:01:59 PM
        
        Why don't you explain it to us alcaray. - FrankC - 7/3/2003 10:16:24 PM
        
        I think I found something to add to Mary Anne's analysis - alcaray - 7/7/2003 4:25:04 PM
        
        The quote, as you know, is from "Henry V". - Mary Anne - 7/4/2003 4:14:10 PM
        
        re: The quote, as you know, is from "Henry V". - Tom Brosz - 7/4/2003 10:49:32 PM
        
        Yes, I'm sure the President understands he is at risk. - Mary Anne - 7/5/2003 10:28:05 PM
        
        Oratory - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2003 12:12:29 AM
        
        I agree with you Tom....... - Lindy - 7/6/2003 11:19:20 PM
        
        Henry V he ain't - FrankC - 7/4/2003 5:03:00 PM
        
        The King Kong impulse - Mary Anne - 7/4/2003 5:50:14 PM
        
        re: The King Kong impulse - gbaikie - 7/5/2003 1:31:01 AM
        
        "Its Clobberin time!!!!" (n/t) - alcaray - 7/7/2003 9:20:01 PM
        
        re: Holy minarets, Batman! - Mary Anne - 7/5/2003 10:55:45 PM
      - Manhood - Lindy - 7/3/2003 2:33:11 AM
        
        re: Manhood - Scott M. - 7/3/2003 3:33:30 PM
        
        Well - FrankC - 7/3/2003 3:55:04 AM
        
        Give us some more credit, Frank! - Davin L. - 7/3/2003 2:57:08 PM
        
        "Selective Belief Systems" - Lindy - 7/3/2003 4:23:40 AM
        
        Continued./..... - Lindy - 7/3/2003 4:27:15 AM
        
        It's this HTML thingy........I did it before - Lindy - 7/3/2003 4:32:08 AM
    - re: Speking for all Okies . . . ? - D. Spires - 7/2/2003 10:07:52 PM
      - Now, now........Dan - Lindy - 7/3/2003 2:42:30 AM
        
        re: Oh . . . ? - D. Spires - 7/7/2003 9:38:02 PM
      - re: re: Speking for all Okies . . . ? - Davin L. - 7/3/2003 2:37:33 AM
      - "I don't think I'd trade horses in midstream" - Matt Burley - 7/2/2003 10:47:27 PM
        
        re: "I don't think I'd trade horses in midstream" - Scott M. - 7/3/2003 3:48:39 PM
        
        Taking it up a notch - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/2/2003 11:46:39 PM
        
        Reality - Scott M. - 7/3/2003 5:52:45 PM
        
        Bringing it down a notch - Lindy - 7/3/2003 3:11:24 AM
        
        Don't hold back Lindy...tell me what you REALLY think. ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/3/2003 8:43:13 AM
        
        It's not like you didn't ask for it. (n/t) - Lindy n/t - 7/3/2003 4:29:23 PM

None dare call it a lie - Splinx - 7/7/2003 4:11:30 PM
- re: None dare call it a lie - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 6:34:22 PM
- re: 'The truth shall make you mad.' - D. Spires - 7/7/2003 6:20:42 PM
- re: None dare call it a lie - Scott Evil - 7/7/2003 4:55:52 PM
  - re: None dare call it a lie - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 5:03:23 PM
    - It works! - Scott Evil - 7/7/2003 5:58:48 PM
    - The original post refers to Clinton and make the comparison (n/t) - FrankC - 7/7/2003 5:50:29 PM
      - Comparison is one thing- saying one set of lies excuses the other (putative set) is quite different indeed. (n/t) - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 6:21:58 PM
    - What Next? - Lindy - 7/7/2003 5:41:45 PM
      - Now if only you could find evidence that Bush was getting... - Scott Evil - 7/7/2003 6:01:08 PM
      - One more time - FrankC - 7/7/2003 5:56:04 PM
        
        A real warpage of the truth - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 6:30:33 PM
        
        re: A real warpage of the truth - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 7:18:00 PM
        
        This is as rational as arguing if there was a gun or not after you have been shot. - Davin L. - 7/7/2003 9:25:01 PM
        
        re: One more time - Tony - 7/7/2003 6:21:43 PM
        
        the evidence is not yet in for the jury to be out - FrankC - 7/7/2003 6:32:04 PM

Women on waves and offshore freedom - Raoul - 7/7/2003 8:11:14 PM

Women on waves and offshore freedom - Raoul - 7/7/2003 7:42:40 PM

Bush II walks the walk - phil - 7/7/2003 5:48:47 PM

Religion of Peace in the news - p - 7/4/2003 4:15:02 PM
- P, your language here has long since been offensive - E.P. Grondine - 7/5/2003 5:49:02 PM
  - re: P, your language here has long since been offensive to twits like me - p - 7/6/2003 1:21:35 PM
    - Ignoring the results of Israeli land grabs for the last 20 years again, aren't you? - E.P. Grondine - 7/7/2003 5:32:30 PM
  - Islam has its problems - FrankC - 7/5/2003 8:04:02 PM
    - As US citizens, so do we - E.P. Grondine - 7/7/2003 5:36:47 PM
  - re: P, your language here has long since been offensive - Mark Eby - 7/5/2003 6:33:05 PM
- sent abroad - FrankC - 7/4/2003 4:46:45 PM

Why War For Oil Is Silly - Mark Eby - 7/4/2003 5:30:56 PM
- Well Lindy? - Mark Eby - 7/6/2003 3:56:29 PM
  - Comments - Lindy - 7/7/2003 5:26:07 PM
- Read the fine print on the gas pump. - Lee - 7/5/2003 4:40:15 AM
  - Do The Math - Mark Eby - 7/5/2003 5:50:56 PM

Democratic rewriting of reality - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 1:52:19 AM
- Not representative - FrankC - 7/7/2003 5:05:37 PM
- Another milestone on the NYT's path to - ebnelson - 7/7/2003 3:43:34 AM
- re: Democratic rewriting of reality - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2003 2:50:34 AM
- That sure sounds like someone coming up with a brillant excuse - Matt Burley - 7/7/2003 2:47:49 AM

Would it be possible to have posts on some topic OTHER than Iraq? It would be a nice change of pace. NT (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/3/2003 11:34:20 AM
- Okay: The Isreali expansionists, and Our weasel politicians and gutless journalists - E.P. Grondine - 7/3/2003 7:35:08 PM
- Perfect intro, DFM... how's about: "It's *still* about the stupid economy" - Fox - 7/3/2003 2:56:56 PM
  - It is about the economy: - ebnelson - 7/4/2003 3:44:43 AM
  - Since Tom is a no-show - alcaray - 7/3/2003 6:03:22 PM
    - Not bad. A little simplistic, but not bad. - Tom Brosz - 7/4/2003 7:15:47 AM
      - I know (and am related to) a whole slew of CA small-businessmen - alcaray - 7/7/2003 4:29:50 PM
      - Welcome back, "harmless fuzzball"! ;-) - Fox - 7/4/2003 12:20:54 PM
    - re: Since Tom is a no-show - Fox - 7/3/2003 6:42:47 PM
      - I miss Tom, too. He really is a good guy (down deep). - alcaray - 7/3/2003 8:46:00 PM

From the ALA re: The Patriot Act - ebnelson - 7/6/2003 11:21:50 PM
- Link - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2003 11:45:41 PM
  - Controlling information, controlling education = controlling the future - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2003 1:43:57 AM
    - re: Oh, do tell - Mary Anne - 7/7/2003 12:29:31 PM
    - Clarification on the ALA - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 2:03:02 AM
      - re: Clarification on the ALA - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2003 2:26:08 AM

The power of prayer ( a blog on Cuba & libraries) - ebnelson - 7/6/2003 10:54:00 PM
- re: The power of prayer ( a blog on Cuba & libraries) - Publius - 7/7/2003 12:33:28 AM
  - The blog was not by me - ebnelson - 7/7/2003 3:38:50 AM
  - I'm sure their trains run on time, too. - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2003 1:20:10 AM

Kuwait's ongoing (and awkward) attempts to reconcile Islam and democracy under a monarchy - Matt Burley - 7/7/2003 2:13:42 AM

"Bring "Em On!" - Lindy - 7/4/2003 4:44:24 AM
- "Bring "Em On!" - that's EXACTLY what a strong leader should say to the terrorists and criminals attacking our troops in Iraq. (n/t) - Matt Burley - 7/4/2003 5:06:40 PM
  - And...US troops wipe out 11 Iraqis who "bring it on" (ambushed their convoy) - Matt Burley - 7/4/2003 5:40:24 PM
    - Manhood Part II - Lindy - 7/4/2003 6:37:55 PM
      - Diplomacy - Tom Brosz - 7/4/2003 8:55:44 PM
        
        War is diplomacy by other means - ebnelson - 7/4/2003 9:34:31 PM
- An Assinine Comment - Mark Eby - 7/4/2003 5:05:55 PM
- re: "Bring "Em On!" - gbaikie - 7/4/2003 6:27:03 AM
  - Here's the point.. - Jason - 7/4/2003 2:54:01 PM
    - Quotes like this make me wonder about the enviromentalcases - Lee - 7/5/2003 5:27:46 AM
      - For Lee - Lindy - 7/5/2003 6:01:01 PM
    - re: Here's the point.. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/4/2003 3:19:10 PM
  - "Most of anti-war was composed to the useful idiots, led by the clueless with most of them all on drugs and majority under 30 years old (of course, I'm being redundant: clueless & under 30 are about… - Mary Anne - 7/4/2003 2:46:10 PM
    - re: "Most of anti-war was composed to the useful idiots, led by the clueless with most of them all on drugs and majority under 30 years old (of course, I'm being redundant: clueless & under 30 are ab… - gbaikie - 7/4/2003 8:17:48 PM
      - My mistake - Mary Anne - 7/5/2003 11:36:35 PM
        
        re: My mistake - gbaikie - 7/6/2003 4:12:10 AM
        
        re: A lot of Red people are more interested in scoring points than in discussion as well. - Mary Anne - 7/6/2003 3:48:52 PM
        
        re: re: A lot of Red people are more interested in scoring points than in discussion as well. - gbaikie - 7/6/2003 10:57:05 PM

Troops gone mad. Theft and vandalism at airport were conducted largely by victorious American troops, according to U.S. officials. $100 million in damages. - Joe - 7/6/2003 1:51:46 PM
- Bush Admin want immunity from International Criminal Court to protect troops from prosecution. - Joe - 7/6/2003 2:03:26 PM
  - False - Mark Eby - 7/6/2003 3:26:34 PM
    - re: A good example? - Raoul - 7/6/2003 4:55:42 PM
      - Those Aren't American Soldies Raoul (n/t) - Mark Eby - 7/6/2003 8:14:27 PM
        
        re: that's why the world wonders if they'll get a trial in accordance to international law (n/t) - Raoul - 7/6/2003 9:04:12 PM

A Library in Cuba: What is it? - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 11:38:28 PM
- So a founder of the Friends movement is a librarian. - ebnelson - 7/6/2003 1:16:21 PM
  - re: Since you refuse to read and comprehend the several answers I have given you on this topic... - Mary Anne - 7/6/2003 3:31:25 PM
    - As you wish - ebnelson - 7/6/2003 8:35:45 PM
- My take on it. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/6/2003 6:04:20 AM

Ungrateful, ignorant Iraquis - Publius - 7/5/2003 1:24:36 PM
- A very small minority of ungrateful, pro-Saddam dead-enders, terrorists, and hired criminals - Matt Burley - 7/5/2003 8:44:00 PM
- re: No winners - Raoul - 7/5/2003 7:09:42 PM
- How can we trust - FrankC - 7/5/2003 7:04:29 PM
  - re: Oh yes they are - Raoul - 7/5/2003 7:16:39 PM
    - The O word - FrankC - 7/5/2003 7:24:40 PM
      - Check this out - FrankC - 7/5/2003 7:33:59 PM
        
        The Link - FrankC - 7/5/2003 7:38:31 PM
        
        re: Oriental - Raoul - 7/5/2003 11:18:43 PM
        
        re: Oriental - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 11:47:52 PM
        
        re: Oriental-removed from its context - Publius - 7/6/2003 2:04:00 PM
        
        Derailing trains - FrankC - 7/6/2003 4:11:56 PM
        
        Observation - Lindy - 7/6/2003 5:27:27 PM
        
        things to talk about - FrankC - 7/6/2003 6:23:33 PM
        
        l'oriental - FrankC - 7/5/2003 11:38:18 PM
- re: Ungrateful, ignorant Iraquis - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 6:39:22 PM
  - "Deal with them the best we can?" - Lindy - 7/5/2003 7:01:24 PM
    - re: "Deal with them the best we can?" - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 8:36:35 PM
- re: Ungrateful, ignorant Iraquis - Lindy - 7/5/2003 6:13:50 PM
  - Quote from the New York Times - Lindy - 7/5/2003 6:19:06 PM
- Sounds like a plot line that could make a good fantasy - ebnelson - 7/5/2003 1:50:02 PM

Africa's destruction at Euro hands - phil - 7/3/2003 12:43:21 PM
- re: Indias destruction at the hands of the Chileans!!! - Davin L. - 7/3/2003 4:41:57 PM
  - On the same continent, what the hell are you smoking? - Lee - 7/4/2003 4:33:19 AM
  - re: re: Indias destruction at the hands of the Chileans!!! - phil - 7/3/2003 7:30:17 PM
    - re: re: re: Indias destruction at the hands of the Chileans!!! - Davin L. - 7/6/2003 3:25:59 PM
      - Redistribution - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2003 3:57:29 PM
    - re: re: re: Indias destruction at the hands of the Chileans!!! - Moerihei - 7/4/2003 4:30:23 AM
      - thank you for helping the folks in Africa (n/t) - phil - 7/4/2003 12:34:17 PM

EU takes another step to self destruction - p - 7/5/2003 12:51:01 PM
- Well, I gots to give the Euros mad props for coming up with this! - Matt Burley - 7/6/2003 12:31:13 AM
  - Ah, thos fun-luvin' Finns - p - 7/6/2003 1:08:05 PM
- Be Happy Like Mobile - Mark Eby - 7/5/2003 6:17:12 PM
  - re: Be Happy Like Mobile - Tom Brosz - 7/5/2003 11:56:33 PM

Courageous Islamic Freedom Fighters Slay Evil Russian Teenage Rock Music Fans - Matt Burley - 7/5/2003 10:59:14 PM
- Islam is Love (n/t) - p - 7/6/2003 1:03:46 PM

Support for Iranians on July 9 - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2003 7:12:34 AM

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