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Is the price of freedom, freedom itself? - Bowser - 11/17/2002 1:32:18 PM
- Re: Is the price of freedom, freedom itself? - Tom Brosz - 11/17/2002 4:22:27 PM

Oh, what tangled web - - - - Bowser - 10/3/2002 3:50:55 PM
- Your selective reading skilss are interesting. The question is: - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 4:04:10 PM
  - Okay, I give up... - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2002 4:05:50 PM
    - Bowser the great and wise claims - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 4:09:47 PM
      - Re: Bowser the great and wise claims - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2002 5:00:51 PM
        
        Re: Bowser the great and wise claims - Todd Fotuar - 11/17/2002 4:20:14 PM
        
        I am repelled by Michael Savage. - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 5:41:28 PM
        
        Re: I am repelled by Michael Savage. - Dave cooper - 11/13/2002 8:35:46 PM
        
        Re: I am repelled by Michael Savage. - Todd Fotuar - 11/17/2002 4:08:03 PM
    - Pot Speech - Tony - 10/3/2002 4:08:52 PM
      - Yes - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 4:54:30 PM
      - Re: X^D (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 10/3/2002 4:38:20 PM
- Re: Oh, what tangled web - - - - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2002 4:03:00 PM
  - "Is there some reason this is any more relevant to Jeb Bush's performance as governor than the rampant drug use of Clinton's brother? " - Buck Galaxy - 10/3/2002 4:31:56 PM
    - Re: Drug War - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2002 5:03:03 PM
    - My guess is that the legacy of the drugwar - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 4:56:14 PM
      - Agreed when it comes to pot - Buck Galaxy - 10/3/2002 5:15:28 PM
        
        Weed reduces your beer cholesterol...so it will never become licit. n/t - sunblok - 10/3/2002 6:36:44 PM
        
        The problem is one of balance - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 6:11:09 PM
  - And he pardoned his brother completely, and got the dwi charges against him dropped. - ebnelson - 10/3/2002 4:05:25 PM

Saw THIS coming down Broadway... - Tom Brosz - 11/17/2002 12:43:49 PM

Holy jumping-up-and-down Martha!!! - Bowser - 11/16/2002 7:34:30 PM
- Yep...darn democrats - they're everywhere you go. (n/t) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/16/2002 7:56:12 PM
  - They're everywhere you go - Lindy - 11/16/2002 6:35:07 PM

The OBL video from late '01 - Splinx - 11/14/2002 8:18:58 PM
- Re: Oh, my bad . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 8:43:44 PM
  - Why are some of you working to hard to defend these bastards? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 8:45:26 PM
    - It is the Truth which is being defended - Splinx - 11/14/2002 8:59:04 PM
      - Re: The truth . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 9:18:30 AM
        
        Re: The truth . . . - Splinx - 11/14/2002 10:57:53 AM
- Re: The OBL video from late '01 - McFly - 11/14/2002 9:19:29 AM
  - Re: In fact . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 12:33:12 PM
  - Re: The OBL video from late '01 - Splinx - 11/14/2002 11:51:10 AM
    - Re: The OBL video from late '01 - McFly - 11/15/2002 2:53:02 PM
    - Isrealis dancing in the streets? - SDG - 11/15/2002 12:22:44 PM
      - Re: Isrealis dancing in the streets? - Splinx - 11/16/2002 3:34:28 PM
        
        Re: Isrealis 'smiling' in the streets . . . - D. Spires - 11/16/2002 6:45:15 PM

House Approves Terrorism Insurance Bill . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 4:30:02 PM
- Is it just me, or is this a BS issue? - Tony - 11/15/2002 2:42:52 PM
  - Most insurance policies don't cover acts of war. - Larry J - 11/15/2002 3:25:22 PM
    - Making a buck from the nation's fears - Fox - 11/16/2002 6:07:35 PM
  - Because the insurance companies are only going to pay - ebnelson - 11/15/2002 2:53:27 PM
    - Re: And Gronk's been busy elsewhere on the board . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 3:08:11 PM
      - Ed does a passable impression, though... n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/15/2002 6:27:14 PM
        
        ....blush,,,,,,shame...... - ebnelson - 11/15/2002 7:09:29 PM
        
        Sorry. I seem to have stepped into something (story of my life). - alcaray - 11/15/2002 7:45:12 PM
        
        Re: Some just have a hard time appreciating the effort . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 7:13:17 PM
        
        I for one appreciate it - Tony - 11/15/2002 7:59:47 PM
        
        Not to be facaetious - alcaray - 11/15/2002 7:46:27 PM
        
        Re: Too late . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 8:36:26 PM
        
        It reminds about 'rule g' - ebnelson - 11/15/2002 12:24:07 PM

Rs to Ds: we don't think you are able to recount... - alcaray - 11/15/2002 8:24:54 PM
- Read the actual story - ebnelson - 11/15/2002 8:31:57 PM
  - How can a statewide recount "steal" the election ? n/t (n/t) - Tony - 11/15/2002 8:45:15 PM
    - Re: How can a statewide recount steal elections - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2002 10:56:05 AM
    - It depends on who counts the votes. - Larry J - 11/15/2002 9:00:27 AM
  - I think all you need to call a recount... - alcaray - 11/15/2002 8:35:31 PM
  - Re: The actual story . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 9:37:07 AM
- One Alabama R to the Dems - FrankC - 11/15/2002 10:46:43 AM
  - Re: One Alabama R to the Dems - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2002 11:02:49 AM

Liberals welcome on the bus - FrankC - 11/14/2002 6:40:21 PM
- Anyone who would let an individual or an organization tell them how to vote is an idiot. - alcaray - 11/15/2002 6:22:11 PM
  - Well, guess the Democrats won't be passing out those little cards to elderly voters anymore. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 6:30:28 PM
    - Not sure of your reference... - alcaray - 11/15/2002 7:31:04 PM
      - Reference - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2002 10:49:04 AM
    - Or pre-marked ballots to military people the Rs assume are too stupid to mark them. n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 11/15/2002 6:44:55 PM
      - Interesting. Don't suppose some documentation of that is available? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 7:05:27 PM
        
        Florida, 2000. - Bowser - 11/15/2002 7:13:56 PM
        
        Re: Florida, 2000. - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2002 10:04:52 AM
        
        Just because you say something is so... - Larry J - 11/15/2002 8:05:45 PM
        
        Likewise Larry - Tony - 11/15/2002 8:10:04 PM
        
        Gladly - Larry J - 11/15/2002 8:37:29 PM
        
        And out of all those.... - Tony - 11/15/2002 8:47:11 PM
        
        Re: And out of all those.... - Larry J - 11/15/2002 9:02:00 AM
        
        Sure. He'll find it where he finds his other "evidence" - Larry J - 11/15/2002 7:12:40 PM
        
        Gee Whiz! - Bowser - 11/15/2002 8:10:50 PM
        
        You think people will believe something just because you say it's so? - Larry J - 11/15/2002 8:33:37 PM
  - It's just an opinion piece, not a DNC directive. - FrankC - 11/15/2002 12:20:08 PM
    - Re: No need to go that far . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 1:18:40 PM

Big Brother coming up? - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 6:11:41 PM
- Hilarious logo! Ranks with "Crusade" and "Infinite Justice". n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/15/2002 7:54:11 PM
- This, and the secret police - - Bowser - 11/14/2002 6:50:10 PM
  - Re: Sh-h!! - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 8:03:57 PM
- Re: Big Brother coming up? - Lindy - 11/14/2002 4:19:34 PM
  - Re: Big Brother coming up? - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 8:58:22 PM
    - What about the eye in the pyramid? - Tony - 11/15/2002 5:37:22 PM
      - Re: It means that we masons are taking over . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 6:13:50 PM
      - The true conspiracy nuts are freaked out by the "eye" on the money, too. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 5:44:43 PM
- Re: Big Brother coming up? - FrankC - 11/14/2002 2:46:20 PM
  - MIB's? - Lindy - 11/14/2002 4:34:33 PM
- Office of Information Awareness projects - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 6:29:06 PM
  - Self-aware data??? - Fox - 11/14/2002 8:39:01 PM
    - SDAI said......heh heh - Lindy - 11/14/2002 5:06:04 PM
      - SDAI says... - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/14/2002 7:47:13 PM
        
        Mark of the Beast - Lindy - 11/15/2002 1:32:42 PM

"The best enemies money can buy" - Splinx - 11/14/2002 7:59:05 PM
- Re: Griffin - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 8:30:32 PM
  - Fallacy Alert - Splinx - 11/14/2002 8:55:59 PM
    - Re: Fallacy Alert - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 9:00:34 AM
      - It seems some people are compelled to believe that vast conspiracies are behind everything. - Larry J - 11/14/2002 12:53:28 PM
        
        Nice flame, Larry.......... - Lindy - 11/14/2002 3:52:25 PM
        
        Conspiracies - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 8:47:44 PM
        
        Forgive. - Bowser - 11/15/2002 6:54:36 PM
        
        It wasn't just aimed at Sphinx. - Larry J - 11/15/2002 2:35:31 PM
        
        Re: So long as they are 'theories' . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 2:15:21 PM
        
        Fallacy alert - Splinx - 11/14/2002 1:02:27 PM
        
        I could post the same thing about most of your posts. - Larry J - 11/15/2002 2:36:15 PM
        
        Re: Fallacy alert - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 1:18:56 PM
      - Re: Re: Fallacy Alert - Splinx - 11/14/2002 10:53:12 AM

How lefties view the unwashed voter - philw - 11/14/2002 6:41:36 PM
- Real losers blame the voters. The dims are REAL losers. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/14/2002 8:54:43 PM
- We don't know if you wash or not. I guess we do now. - Bowser - 11/14/2002 6:55:34 PM
  - Bowser, you actually BUY this crap? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 8:47:33 PM
    - Yep! How else can you see it? n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 11/14/2002 1:52:23 PM
- Granny D. - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 12:17:14 PM
- If you take this article... - alcaray - 11/14/2002 10:07:09 AM
- Look no further - Robert - 11/14/2002 9:57:01 AM
  - A little logic... - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 12:07:48 PM
    - Re: Reasoning . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 1:17:04 PM
    - Re: A very little logic... - Robert - 11/14/2002 1:11:29 PM
      - Re: A very little logic... - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 3:40:17 PM
        
        And then again... - Mary Anne - 11/15/2002 2:16:22 PM
        
        Re: And then again... - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 5:43:38 PM
        
        Honestly, I don't understand how it is so "easy" to cheat. - alcaray - 11/15/2002 6:05:34 PM
        
        Voter fraud - Tom Brosz - 11/15/2002 6:29:21 PM
        
        Re: And then again... - Larry J - 11/15/2002 3:28:33 PM
        
        No, the DNC does not. But it's a nice lie, so I'm sure we will continue to hear it a lot. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/15/2002 5:55:08 PM
        
        History proves otherwise. Whether you choose to believe history or not is up to you. nt (n/t) - Larry J - 11/15/2002 7:01:57 PM
        
        Show me the "history" linking DNC to voter fraud, please. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/15/2002 7:50:24 PM
        
        Well, let's see - Larry J - 11/15/2002 8:31:52 PM
        
        Re: A very little logic... - Robert - 11/14/2002 4:35:21 PM
      - Discussion? - Splinx - 11/14/2002 3:03:32 PM
        
        Re: Discussion? - Robert - 11/14/2002 4:18:48 PM
  - Woops! You scooped me. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/14/2002 10:08:19 AM

Iraq's "Acceptance" Letter - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/15/2002 8:09:53 PM
- Re: Iraq's - McFly - 11/15/2002 9:26:24 AM

Why we must fight - ebnelson - 11/15/2002 4:32:21 PM

Americans Quiz Rumsfeld on Radio Call-in Show . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 11:25:50 AM
- Re: Americans Quiz Rumsfeld on Radio Call-in Show . . . - SteveS - 11/15/2002 3:32:58 PM

"War Torn" - Larry J - 11/15/2002 3:22:02 PM

Rules for the Republican majority (warning bad language) - p - 11/13/2002 11:18:29 AM
- I agree with most of this - Gary - 11/13/2002 7:17:44 PM
  - Re: I agree with most of this - philw - 11/14/2002 6:22:11 PM
  - If you want torte reform - alcaray - 11/14/2002 5:25:13 PM
    - the tort beat goes on - p - 11/14/2002 6:28:28 PM
      - 98% of the lawyers give the other 2% a bad name - Larry J - 11/14/2002 7:22:39 PM
        
        2% sounds a little high N/T (n/t) - SDG - 11/14/2002 8:36:07 PM
        
        Re: Well . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 9:35:54 AM
        
        Re: Well . . . - Larry J - 11/14/2002 2:36:03 PM
        
        Re: N O D O U B T . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 3:39:04 PM
        
        Go ahead, Dan. I can use a laugh. nt. (n/t) - Larry J - 11/15/2002 2:53:00 PM
  - "You can't always get what you want... - Larry J - 11/14/2002 2:47:19 PM
- Sure works for me... (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 11:44:13 AM

U.N. Chief Details Plans for Iraq Inspections . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 11:41:10 AM

Americans Engage Enemy Forces in Afghanistan . . . - D. Spires - 11/15/2002 11:29:41 AM

Daschle Doubts Terror War's Progress (so does Bush) - Bowser - 11/14/2002 8:23:55 PM
- Daschle lies. What is news in that? Bowser accepts it as truth. Nothing new there, either. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/14/2002 8:53:45 PM
- Re: Daschle Doubts - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 8:44:27 PM
- We didn't find Hitler in 1945. By Daschel's "reasoning", we must've lost WWII. - Larry J - 11/14/2002 12:49:36 PM

Bin Laden alive...again? - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2002 11:34:31 AM
- Re: Bin Laden alive...again? - McFly - 11/13/2002 6:39:15 PM
- The voice didn't sound happy - Scott - 11/13/2002 5:06:09 PM
- NO WAY!!!!! I betcha it's a RICH LITTLE impersonator.... - Carl...... - 11/13/2002 4:33:49 PM
- The question is not so much: Dead or Alive? - Splinx - 11/13/2002 4:00:08 PM
  - Re: The answer - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 7:24:44 PM
    - Counterpoint - Splinx - 11/14/2002 3:28:31 PM
    - ...Of course, these are all lies. ;) (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 7:26:11 PM
  - Re: Again . . . - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 4:28:03 PM
    - Re: Again . . . - Splinx - 11/13/2002 5:04:12 PM
      - Re: Ignorance is bliss . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 6:25:26 PM
- We will see. - ebnelson - 11/13/2002 1:20:14 PM
- The Loquacious bin Laden... - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/12/2002 4:28:37 PM
  - Hah!, It's not our spooks, it's Mossad... n/t (n/t) - Gary - 11/13/2002 4:53:28 PM
  - Re: Dunno about that . . . - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 3:25:38 PM
  - an uncomplicated soul - FrankC - 11/13/2002 3:17:14 PM
- Can't be! - Bowser - 11/12/2002 2:14:32 PM
  - Good call. You finally won one! It feels good to be a winner. - Scott - 11/13/2002 4:51:18 PM
  - Re: What people would those be . . . ? - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 2:19:17 PM
  - For the sake of humanity? - FrankC - 11/13/2002 1:51:27 PM
- Re: Bin Laden alive...again? - Larry J - 11/12/2002 12:49:59 PM
  - Cut & paste audio is easy for the experts to detect. We would have heard by now if it was that kind of fake. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/13/2002 5:06:27 PM
    - Maybe not - Splinx - 11/13/2002 5:13:06 PM
      - Nope. FBI labs would suss it out in a few hours. n.t (n/t) - alcaray - 11/14/2002 5:15:36 PM
        
        Re: Nope - Splinx - 11/14/2002 5:54:32 PM
        
        A strange psychosis... - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 8:52:53 PM
        
        Something's strange alright - Splinx - 11/14/2002 1:00:16 PM
        
        Re: Something's strange alright - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2002 3:41:55 PM
- Curious - FrankC - 11/12/2002 12:11:16 PM

"The basic flaw is military power does not stop terrorism." - Splinx - 11/12/2002 2:13:52 PM
- If military power could stop terrorism, it would have stopped terrorism. - Bowser - 11/13/2002 7:58:14 PM
  - Re: If military power could stop terrorism, it would have stopped terrorism. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 8:15:41 PM
- As a matter of interest... - Gary - 11/13/2002 5:30:48 PM
  - Nice analysis. Thanks. n/t - Splinx - 11/13/2002 9:21:00 AM
- So let us all lay down our weapons and sing cumbiaya! - Scott - 11/13/2002 5:26:22 PM
- I disagree with the two premises completely - ebnelson - 11/13/2002 4:43:08 PM
- Neither does appeasement nor diplomacy - Larry J - 11/13/2002 1:39:59 PM
  - Back to the Law of the Jungle then, eh? - Splinx - 11/13/2002 3:45:21 PM
    - Re: Back to the Law of the Jungle then, eh? - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 6:57:02 PM
    - Re: Back to the Law of the Jungle then, eh? - McFly - 11/13/2002 6:18:21 PM
      - Yes, but... - Splinx - 11/13/2002 7:18:02 PM
        
        Re: China and Russia . . . - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 9:30:12 AM
        
        That late-2001 OBL video is a fake - Splinx - 11/14/2002 3:10:10 PM
        
        Re: Yeah, and I heard a rumor he never really existed at all . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 7:56:03 PM
        
        Quite right...carelessly worded on my part n/t (n/t) - McFly - 11/13/2002 9:21:27 AM
    - Re: Yes . . . - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 4:00:29 PM
      - Re: Yes . . . - Splinx - 11/13/2002 4:06:09 PM
        
        Re: Then try real hard to not squeeze the trigger . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 11/13/2002 4:21:24 PM
    - When the terrorists are willing to stop fighting, then peace will be possible. - Larry J - 11/13/2002 1:09:20 PM
- Terrorism fails - FrankC - 11/12/2002 5:59:27 PM
- Re: "The basic flaw is military power does not stop terrorism." - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2002 5:17:49 PM
  - Nevertheless, the basic flaw remains - Splinx - 11/13/2002 3:28:28 PM
    - Re: Nevertheless - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 6:43:34 PM
      - Re: Nevertheless - Splinx - 11/13/2002 9:17:54 AM
        
        Translation - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 11:40:47 AM
- No, but the private interests in the defense department sure look good - Lindy - 11/12/2002 4:11:12 PM
- Bingo! - Bowser - 11/12/2002 2:29:16 PM
  - Bzzzzt. Wrong-o. WWII. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/13/2002 12:01:20 PM

Iraqi soldiers prepare for war - Larry J - 11/14/2002 7:43:16 PM
- and... - McFly - 11/14/2002 9:11:08 AM

When nothing but troops on the ground will get you the oil, - Bowser - 11/14/2002 6:40:18 PM

Killer Befriended His Captor . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 1:12:33 PM
- Pakistani Executed for Killing Two CIA Officers . . . - D. Spires - 11/14/2002 4:39:23 PM

Interesting political developments in China. - Bowser - 11/13/2002 8:29:46 PM
- I liked the Economists's headline.... - Tony - 11/14/2002 3:48:49 PM
- The chinese strategy of having rich slaves goes for round three. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/13/2002 12:07:02 PM
- Re: Interesting - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2002 9:38:41 AM

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