"Let's say Bush did not invade Iraq with ground troops in an unprovoked invasion, but instead had launched an airstrike-only campaign in response to Saddam conducting a genocidal ethnic cleansing campaign against Kurdistan. While that airstrike campaign was being waged the leadership of a democratically controlled Congress worked actively to undermine Bush's ability to wage that campaign to the point of defeating a Congressional Resolution of support for our armed forces. This would mean the campaign must end in 90 days or it would violate the war powers act. You think that might give aid and comfort to Saddam (As it did Milosovic)?
What do you think of the republican leadship's actions in this case? "
But did Bush need to attack before getting congressional thumbs up. The important thing is congress did support Clinton by funding the operation. Clinton may not followed the intent of War Powers Resolution if he did not consult congress before taking action. Perhaps if they had been briefed and had agreed with the plan, they would passed a resolution showing support. So this could be seen as a fig leaf to cover Clinton's ass. It wasn't needed and I like to know how many dems voted for it.
Congress should change the War Powers Resolution, they should remove as a law, and change it into a document which is advice the congress give to any President, but lay out good practices that a president is recommended to consider. So it's got more detail and could have various options. For example, perhaps the president could ask for a secret ballot [or survey question] of congress to get general feel of views of congress regarding some matter [of course the president might already know the view of congress as a body, but the point is it's an option]. Another thing is it could advise and indicate a process that might be best done if the president's party is the minority and be slightly different if it's the majority. Anyways this sort of like Senate rules instead of some law that conflicts with constitution. Same thing might apply to Judge confirmations or other confirmation. But if it isn't good advice or procedure is not helpful, or it's not applicable to situation, the president need not follow it.
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- "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- UNFLUSH
- re. Well said Robert
- re. Well said Robert
- In the spirit of "My very own personal definition of treason"
- I hope you're satisfied Robert
- What a pile of CRAP
- Why yes, as a matter of fact, thanks for asking
- Yep, when the brothers Grimm race to your defense you know you must be doing something right! (n/t)
- apples and oranges. Or maybe Physics and Vortices.
- "Colonel Mustard...in the study...with a pipe" (n/t)
- Steamrolling Doesn't Work But 4X12s Does
- Where's Gary? Hallooooo?
- THE MOST CLEAR CUT CASE OF GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN RECENT MEMORY
- Did someone at HZ out a CIA agent while I was gone? (n/t)
- re: "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- OOOPS.......... (n/t)
- Typically selective liberal memory
- Bad RL
- Ditto, ditto, ditto, supperditto! (n/t)
- Very nice FL
- So dissent is treason?
- John Walker Lindh....really?
- That picture was from his album page, dont you remember? (n/t)
- For chrissake!!
- "I remember something about this."
- OK, I bit.........
- Best of all you 'remembered' a post that never existed
- You believe any crap you read and that makes me an asshole?
- Why don't you try this approach on Mary Anne...
- return address lables.........
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- Perhaps.........
- "...I have been quite restrained..." - RL
- I can see your point as well.
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- What, you pulled one over on Lindy and gloat about it?
- OK, I bit.........
- anger and hyperbole
- I apologize...
- To be perfectly clear
- No, seriously: Notice of recusal
- BULLSHIT
- BULLSHIT
- Treason has a definition, or used to.
- We apparently need a new word.
- The word you're looking for is "sedition"
- No The Old One Works Fine
- Ohhh. this is classic
- If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Why don't you understand why someone would be offended...
- "Do you believe the left should shutup about all the poorly substantiated claims they have against Bush? Or do you think that because he is wrong on so many issues and obviously hand waives away scie…
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Yes Use It
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- So you sorta maybe think that some here ARE guilty of treason?
- Let's see...
- Another example of Eby non-think
- Not really
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- We apparently need a new word.
- BULLSHIT, Eby
- Excuse me, Mark
- Don't know what is worse
- Hmm
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Funny
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- Actually
- re: If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- ah, drat. The image was htere on the html preview.
- Funny
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Hmm
