The word "treasonous", which has an explicit legal definition, is used, and yet it's not proper to hold the user(s) to its definition. I see. So using words correctly is an example of liberal thinking. Thank you.
Free speech and dissent is still not treason, except in a tyranny. You can expect all you want from me. Agreement will not be forthcoming.
As for creation of "enraged idiots", you could just as easily say that the US Dept. of Defense did that when they neglected to plan for an effective occupation based on pie-in-the-sky projections of what it would take to secure and rebuild Iraq.
Sure, people have the right to call other people treasonous. The people thus labelled have every right to be angry, to call the name-caller on it, and if they feel strongly enough, to demand satisfaction in court. (They would win.) People can call other people criminals, but then there's the little matter of proof. Of course, if one is only calling people criminals out of frustration, and not because it's true, the genuine crime no longer has a meaningful label. It's just another nasty word.
If you would like to defend someone else's right to accuse others of treason based on remarks they have made, are you also prepared to contribute to that person's defense fund? Defamation of character is a crime too. If I were to, say, accuse someone of being a child molester because of a remark he made about an underage girl, would you defend my right to do that as well? It's the same thing.
To express an opinion about foreign policy, or to repeat bad news, is not treason, or treasonous. "Giving aid and comfort", I say again (since you had the audacity to quote me in your own support), has a specific definition. "Making the enemy happy" doesn't come close to that definition. Unless a person is actively, explicitly recruiting for the enemy, no amount of repetition of uncomplementary remarks constitutes "aid and comfort".
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- "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- UNFLUSH
- re. Well said Robert
- re. Well said Robert
- In the spirit of "My very own personal definition of treason"
- I hope you're satisfied Robert
- What a pile of CRAP
- Why yes, as a matter of fact, thanks for asking
- Yep, when the brothers Grimm race to your defense you know you must be doing something right! (n/t)
- apples and oranges. Or maybe Physics and Vortices.
- "Colonel Mustard...in the study...with a pipe" (n/t)
- Steamrolling Doesn't Work But 4X12s Does
- Where's Gary? Hallooooo?
- THE MOST CLEAR CUT CASE OF GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN RECENT MEMORY
- Did someone at HZ out a CIA agent while I was gone? (n/t)
- re: "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- OOOPS.......... (n/t)
- Typically selective liberal memory
- Bad RL
- Ditto, ditto, ditto, supperditto! (n/t)
- Very nice FL
- So dissent is treason?
- John Walker Lindh....really?
- That picture was from his album page, dont you remember? (n/t)
- For chrissake!!
- "I remember something about this."
- OK, I bit.........
- Best of all you 'remembered' a post that never existed
- You believe any crap you read and that makes me an asshole?
- Why don't you try this approach on Mary Anne...
- return address lables.........
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- Perhaps.........
- "...I have been quite restrained..." - RL
- I can see your point as well.
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- What, you pulled one over on Lindy and gloat about it?
- OK, I bit.........
- anger and hyperbole
- I apologize...
- To be perfectly clear
- No, seriously: Notice of recusal
- BULLSHIT
- BULLSHIT
- Treason has a definition, or used to.
- We apparently need a new word.
- The word you're looking for is "sedition"
- No The Old One Works Fine
- Ohhh. this is classic
- If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Why don't you understand why someone would be offended...
- "Do you believe the left should shutup about all the poorly substantiated claims they have against Bush? Or do you think that because he is wrong on so many issues and obviously hand waives away scie…
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Yes Use It
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- So you sorta maybe think that some here ARE guilty of treason?
- Let's see...
- Another example of Eby non-think
- Not really
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- We apparently need a new word.
- BULLSHIT, Eby
- Excuse me, Mark
- Don't know what is worse
- Hmm
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Funny
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- Actually
- re: If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- ah, drat. The image was htere on the html preview.
- Funny
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Hmm
