"Treason" is too much.
I have no idea how "aid and comfort" is actually legally defined. That the bar is high can be assumed by the fact that only about 40 Federal prosecutions on this charge have ever taken place.
So what then?
Zoners aside, it is obvious that many people in this country are behaving no differently than if al Qaeda was actually paying them for their speeches and articles. Every success of the terrorists, and every failure of our side, is front page news. The opposite? You don't see much of that.
What does it mean when one's words and opinions are spread throughout the Islamist world as proof of the rightness of the Islamist cause? As proof that Americans aren't going to hold the course, and that the Islamists are going to win?
What does it mean when someone shouts that we can't win this war, that we need to quit, we need to surrender? Is that constructive criticism? Is it political commentary?
We need a new term.
"Useful idiots" used to have a specific meaning related to communism, but I still don't like the term "idiot" thrown in there.
What then? Back during the Vietnam War, the anti-war groups on campus made no bones about their views. They were anti-American, admired Ho Chi Minh, and thought communism was the wave of the future. It isn't the same now. I have never met a liberal who wanted the Islamists to win, or thought they were the wave of the future. But I have met a lot of them who want the U.S. to lose. I have never figured out how they connect these two things in their brains, but they hold both opinions honestly.
With the media on the other side, the military is fighting with one foot in a bucket of cement, but I think they can still do it.
It isn't treason. I don't have a word for it. But it isn't helpful, either.
Flame » in reply to Treason has a definition, or used to.
We apparently need a new word.
The whole thread (282 posts)
- "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- UNFLUSH
- re. Well said Robert
- re. Well said Robert
- In the spirit of "My very own personal definition of treason"
- I hope you're satisfied Robert
- What a pile of CRAP
- Why yes, as a matter of fact, thanks for asking
- Yep, when the brothers Grimm race to your defense you know you must be doing something right! (n/t)
- apples and oranges. Or maybe Physics and Vortices.
- "Colonel Mustard...in the study...with a pipe" (n/t)
- Steamrolling Doesn't Work But 4X12s Does
- Where's Gary? Hallooooo?
- THE MOST CLEAR CUT CASE OF GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN RECENT MEMORY
- Did someone at HZ out a CIA agent while I was gone? (n/t)
- re: "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- OOOPS.......... (n/t)
- Typically selective liberal memory
- Bad RL
- Ditto, ditto, ditto, supperditto! (n/t)
- Very nice FL
- So dissent is treason?
- John Walker Lindh....really?
- That picture was from his album page, dont you remember? (n/t)
- For chrissake!!
- "I remember something about this."
- OK, I bit.........
- Best of all you 'remembered' a post that never existed
- You believe any crap you read and that makes me an asshole?
- Why don't you try this approach on Mary Anne...
- return address lables.........
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- Perhaps.........
- "...I have been quite restrained..." - RL
- I can see your point as well.
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- What, you pulled one over on Lindy and gloat about it?
- OK, I bit.........
- anger and hyperbole
- I apologize...
- To be perfectly clear
- No, seriously: Notice of recusal
- BULLSHIT
- BULLSHIT
- Treason has a definition, or used to.
- We apparently need a new word.
- The word you're looking for is "sedition"
- No The Old One Works Fine
- Ohhh. this is classic
- If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Why don't you understand why someone would be offended...
- "Do you believe the left should shutup about all the poorly substantiated claims they have against Bush? Or do you think that because he is wrong on so many issues and obviously hand waives away scie…
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Yes Use It
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- So you sorta maybe think that some here ARE guilty of treason?
- Let's see...
- Another example of Eby non-think
- Not really
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- We apparently need a new word.
- BULLSHIT, Eby
- Excuse me, Mark
- Don't know what is worse
- Hmm
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Funny
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- Actually
- re: If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- ah, drat. The image was htere on the html preview.
- Funny
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Hmm
