The sentence was: "Besides we've got scumbags here in the HabitableZone preaching treason against the United States so why is it unreasonable for an Iranian to preach treason against the mullahs?"
I think it's a fair guess to say that from the point of view of most soldiers in Iraq, they wouldn't find a lot of obvious support from posters at the Habitablezone. I think soldier fighting for our country deserve our support. I also think the Commander in Chief of the miltary also deserves our support.
I think the degree of this lack of support [esp in a time of war] is corresponding degree of betrayal- treason.
And also note that Gary says *preaching* treason. I think a statement like "We must bring our soldiers out of Iraq, now". Is an example of preaching treason. And would be a similar to a Iranian student saying the US should launch miltary attacks on Iran. And I think that is being overly generous to the "out of Iraq now" guy in comparison to the Iranian student.
[btw, I wrote the above eariler, and I just read Mark's post:
http://www.habitablezone.com/flame/messages/391734.html
I believe Mark has expressed this general point better better than I did, particularly in regard to criticism expected and desirable even during time of war]
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- "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- UNFLUSH
- re. Well said Robert
- re. Well said Robert
- In the spirit of "My very own personal definition of treason"
- I hope you're satisfied Robert
- What a pile of CRAP
- Why yes, as a matter of fact, thanks for asking
- Yep, when the brothers Grimm race to your defense you know you must be doing something right! (n/t)
- apples and oranges. Or maybe Physics and Vortices.
- "Colonel Mustard...in the study...with a pipe" (n/t)
- Steamrolling Doesn't Work But 4X12s Does
- Where's Gary? Hallooooo?
- THE MOST CLEAR CUT CASE OF GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY IN RECENT MEMORY
- Did someone at HZ out a CIA agent while I was gone? (n/t)
- re: "scumbags...in the HabitableZone preaching treason..."
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- "If this be treason, let us make the most of it!"
- OOOPS.......... (n/t)
- Typically selective liberal memory
- Bad RL
- Ditto, ditto, ditto, supperditto! (n/t)
- Very nice FL
- So dissent is treason?
- John Walker Lindh....really?
- That picture was from his album page, dont you remember? (n/t)
- For chrissake!!
- "I remember something about this."
- OK, I bit.........
- Best of all you 'remembered' a post that never existed
- You believe any crap you read and that makes me an asshole?
- Why don't you try this approach on Mary Anne...
- return address lables.........
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- Perhaps.........
- "...I have been quite restrained..." - RL
- I can see your point as well.
- Recap for for the reading challenged
- What, you pulled one over on Lindy and gloat about it?
- OK, I bit.........
- anger and hyperbole
- I apologize...
- To be perfectly clear
- No, seriously: Notice of recusal
- BULLSHIT
- BULLSHIT
- Treason has a definition, or used to.
- We apparently need a new word.
- The word you're looking for is "sedition"
- No The Old One Works Fine
- Ohhh. this is classic
- If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Why don't you understand why someone would be offended...
- "Do you believe the left should shutup about all the poorly substantiated claims they have against Bush? Or do you think that because he is wrong on so many issues and obviously hand waives away scie…
- re: If you are going to accuse someone of a capital crime, be ready to prove it.
- Yes Use It
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- So you sorta maybe think that some here ARE guilty of treason?
- Let's see...
- Another example of Eby non-think
- Not really
- Three Way Example of Liberal Group Think
- You have proof of this, I assume.
- We apparently need a new word.
- BULLSHIT, Eby
- Excuse me, Mark
- Don't know what is worse
- Hmm
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Funny
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- Actually
- re: If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- If you walk like a jackass, if you talk like a jackass
- ah, drat. The image was htere on the html preview.
- Funny
- FrakenEby strikes again!
- Hmm
