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More from the Saddam IS a bad guy dept. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 12:25:47 PM
- What I'm waiting to hear; "Saddam is a Dead Guy" (n/t) - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:35:23 AM

If Gore were telling this one... - alcaray - 6/27/2002 7:51:51 PM
- Curious if you guys got as far as the heading "Timeline"? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 10:14:26 AM
  - Reality is irrelevant to the myth. - Bowser - 6/27/2002 10:42:26 AM
    - Re: It's a joke, B . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 11:04:52 AM
  - Re: Did you get as far as reading my post . . . ? - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 10:29:44 AM
    - Loud and clear, Dan. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 10:37:23 AM
      - Re: Then the timeline doesn't matter . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 11:01:15 AM
        
        Perfectly clear to me that it doesn't matter to you. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 11:11:06 AM
- Yawn. Bush's every word is known to this author? - ebnelson - 6/27/2002 9:48:52 AM
- Re: It's a pointless rant . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 9:29:09 AM
  - Yes and it's evidence... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 9:57:43 AM

9th US Circuit Court of Appeals rules the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional - Larry J - 6/26/2002 6:31:08 PM
- Isn't it time for a major quake in the bay area? - Lee - 6/27/2002 7:32:41 PM
- Turns out it is only a 3 judge panel, and only 2-1. This will not be sustained. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/27/2002 1:29:10 PM
  - Something like 29 of 30 of the 9th's rulings were overturned by the Supreme Court - Larry J - 6/27/2002 1:41:50 PM
- Re: American traditions - Raoul - 6/26/2002 7:17:33 PM
  - Re: American traditions - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 10:36:17 AM
    - Re: Origins - Raoul - 6/27/2002 8:45:46 AM
  - What it means - Larry J - 6/26/2002 7:24:41 PM
  - traditions and ritual - FrankC - 6/26/2002 12:06:05 PM
    - Re: traditions and ritual - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 10:45:21 AM
  - The Pledge - Bowser - 6/26/2002 8:05:03 AM
    - Re: One Nation . . . - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 8:48:26 AM
- Re: "Mom? I need some script for luch." (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 7:16:48 PM
- Re: 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals rules the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional - DWC - 6/26/2002 12:09:57 PM
  - Re: 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals rules the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional - dwc - 6/26/2002 12:16:35 PM

Trottin' off to war. - Bowser - 6/26/2002 6:09:44 PM
- Whoops! Link here. - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:01:00 PM
- Re: If only...... - Raoul - 6/27/2002 3:46:01 PM
  - Re: If only...... - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:36:37 PM
- Re: Economy - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 11:01:32 AM
  - hmmm - SDG - 6/27/2002 3:47:39 PM
    - Re: hmmm - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 9:26:29 AM
- Bowser it's VERY obvious you ARE against him and the USA. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 9:40:13 AM
  - Re: Bowser.....you ARE against him and the USA. (n/t) - Lindy - 6/27/2002 6:28:33 PM
    - I;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 8:35:48 AM
      - Re: I;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 9:32:14 AM

A10 crashed - Raoul Lannoy - 6/27/2002 3:26:42 PM
- A-10s are single seaters... - Larry J - 6/27/2002 3:38:22 PM
  - A-10s - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:21:12 PM
  - Re: A-10s are single seaters... - Raoul - 6/27/2002 3:51:45 PM
    - Just heard on the news that it was an A-10 - Larry J - 6/27/2002 4:00:02 PM
      - Re: Just heard on the news that it was an A-10 - Raoul - 6/27/2002 4:03:41 PM

Supreme Court rules school vouchers are constitutional - Larry J - 6/27/2002 3:01:35 PM

US Space Command and Strategic Command are merging - Larry J - 6/27/2002 1:34:40 PM
- Perhaps... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 1:53:30 PM

Four WorldCom Executives Subpoenaed for House Hearing. . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 9:04:28 AM
- SEC Probing `Number of' Audit-Independence Cases, Official Says . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 10:08:18 AM
  - Soon All 4 may be no-more... - Scott - 6/27/2002 10:46:37 AM
    - Perhaps if we just give SEC head Harvey Pitt - Matt Burley - 6/27/2002 11:45:48 AM
    - This is so widespread - alcaray - 6/27/2002 11:00:51 AM
      - Re: This is so widespread - Scott - 6/27/2002 12:06:00 PM
        
        Re: This is so widespread - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 12:24:30 PM
- Goldman Will Help WorldCom Sell Assets, People Say . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 10:00:02 AM
- WorldCom's Tumble Leads Junk Bonds to Worst Monthly Showing . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 9:49:33 AM

Slash and Burn - R.O'Leary - 6/26/2002 6:16:33 PM
- We don't have the national will for this - ebnelson - 6/26/2002 8:15:13 AM
  - Re: We don't have the national will for this - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 10:47:22 AM

AMD - these people are nuts. - Bowser - 6/26/2002 7:56:25 PM
- You're falling into an old trap... - Larry J - 6/26/2002 8:12:13 AM
  - Respectfully disagree on priority - Bowser - 6/26/2002 8:37:27 AM
    - Re: Respectfully disagree on priority - Larry J - 6/26/2002 9:00:06 AM

Dan, is this affecting you much? - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 3:48:07 PM
- This is an outrage, and an embarrassment for all of us in America - Matt Burley - 6/26/2002 6:28:02 PM
  - Who do they think they are, the government? - Larry J - 6/26/2002 7:22:10 PM
    - Don't get me started... - Scott - 6/26/2002 7:44:12 PM
  - Re: Hardly an outrage, Matt . . . - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 7:11:25 PM
    - Re: Hardly an outrage, Matt . . . - Scott - 6/26/2002 7:42:24 PM
      - Re: Uh-huh . . . - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 8:33:34 AM
        
        Sorry. Didn't mean to do that. - Scott - 6/26/2002 8:42:03 AM
        
        Re: Sorry. Didn't mean to do that. - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 9:22:50 AM
    - Hardly an outrage? Try telling that to fund managers and investors who put down millions on the assumption that Worldcom was telling the truth...n/t (n/t) - Matt Burley - 6/26/2002 10:02:11 AM
      - Re: But WorldCom is telling the truth . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 1:12:49 PM
- Re: Extremely . . . - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 12:41:44 PM
  - I predict you'll land on your feet come what may - Larry J - 6/26/2002 5:21:16 PM
  - Re: Extremely . . . - ebnelson - 6/26/2002 5:03:39 PM
- follow my lead people - p - 6/26/2002 12:13:53 PM
  - I hope you got the Stock Certificates - Scott - 6/26/2002 5:06:30 PM
  - Re: got my shares with a Happy Meal . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 12:34:06 PM
- The way Dan can make big bucks now! - p - 6/26/2002 8:51:42 AM
- Re: Just heard it this morning - Raoul - 6/25/2002 5:37:56 PM
  - Re: Crap happens around crappy people, Raoul . . . - D. Spires - 6/26/2002 1:31:04 PM
    - Unfortunatly when things go South... - Scott - 6/26/2002 4:58:18 PM

Bush II Speech - p - 6/25/2002 3:28:19 PM
- Tell me. - Bowser - 6/25/2002 4:11:33 PM
  - Re: Tell me. - R.O'Leary - 6/25/2002 7:45:06 PM
    - Uhhhhh, you are so wrong about the name "Palesitine" - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 9:05:17 AM
      - Re: Uhhhhh, you are so wrong about the name - R.O'Leary - 6/25/2002 1:11:55 PM
        
        I guess the Romans didn't really do much there - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 3:53:57 PM
        
        Re: I guess the Romans didn't really do much there - R.O'Leary - 6/26/2002 6:06:54 PM
  - told - p - 6/25/2002 4:47:26 PM
  - Step 1 - stop the terrorist attacks against Israel - Larry J - 6/25/2002 4:25:14 PM
    - Israel could ask for a massive UN dpeloyment to the West Bank and Gaza - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 5:06:39 PM
      - Do you understand why that would be a stupid move? - Larry J - 6/25/2002 5:17:07 PM
        
        Your argument is not persuasive - E.P Grondine - 6/25/2002 5:34:00 PM
      - They will never do that again. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 5:10:50 PM
        
        "again"? - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 5:23:20 PM
        
        I was referring to the pre-1967 deployment of UN peace keepers. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 5:31:28 PM
        
        And how many of them were there? - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 5:36:32 PM
        
        I beleive that except in Korea, UN peace keepers are always observers. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 6:00:34 PM
      - Israel wants the status quo. - Bowser - 6/25/2002 10:07:12 AM
    - And just who is left to do that? - Bowser - 6/25/2002 5:00:55 PM
      - So you send in more kids to blow themselves up? - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 5:09:13 PM

Looking right, when everyone's looking left. - Bowser - 6/26/2002 1:10:41 PM

Al Queda kills Pakistani troops for the first time - Matt Burley - 6/26/2002 11:39:58 AM

Preschool of Hate - R.O'Leary - 6/26/2002 9:31:18 AM

Insane Govt Mandate - p - 6/26/2002 9:17:44 AM

Bush II throws down the gauntlet to the Saudis - p - 6/26/2002 9:09:34 AM

Rolling Blackouts again.... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/24/2002 3:26:31 PM
- When all the games and allegations are set aside - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 2:45:46 PM
  - Can you tell me what you mean by Davis' "interference in the market"? n/ti (n/t) - alcaray - 6/25/2002 4:32:43 PM
    - He manipulated the market big time. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 5:12:55 PM
      - Ahh - alcaray - 6/25/2002 6:24:06 PM
        
        Have plants been completed yet? - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 7:46:30 PM
        
        You still don't have the timing right. - alcaray - 6/25/2002 9:05:47 AM
        
        Bzzt...wrong. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 9:10:33 AM
        
        Someone from the right-wing: please email Ed with some facts he will believe. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/25/2002 9:39:55 AM

One reason the Israeli - Palestinian war is intractable. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 4:20:37 PM
- Re: One reason the Israeli - Palestinian war is intractable. - R.O'Leary - 6/25/2002 7:19:37 PM
  - You missed the point a bit. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 7:43:31 PM
    - They're willing to be used as weapons because it works - Larry J - 6/25/2002 8:54:32 AM
      - Re: A long process - Raoul - 6/25/2002 10:04:19 AM
        
        With one fundamental difference... - Larry J - 6/25/2002 12:33:30 PM
      - Re: They're willing to be used as weapons because it works - p - 6/25/2002 9:13:28 AM
      - You exactly make my point: - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 9:08:08 AM
    - Because they are uneducated fools. - Scott - 6/25/2002 8:02:02 AM
      - The demographics don't indicate that§ (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 8:18:23 AM
        
        Well I guess that depends on how you define educated. - Scott - 6/25/2002 10:38:00 AM
        
        Re: Well I guess that depends on how you define educated. - R,O'Leary - 6/25/2002 12:13:57 PM
        
        Do you know how we ended their resistance? (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 1:46:55 PM

Torture them before they torture us - R.O'Leary - 6/18/2002 5:36:40 PM
- Re: No . . . - D. Spires - 6/18/2002 7:20:47 PM
  - Agreed, but!... - Jacob Samorodin - 6/18/2002 8:34:26 AM
    - Re: That would not be torture, Jake . . . - D. Spires - 6/18/2002 9:32:42 AM
      - It's not necessary - Gary - 6/18/2002 5:37:07 PM
        
        One change to your idea - Larry J - 6/19/2002 2:04:42 PM
        
        Re: Rebuttal et al - R.O'Leary - 6/25/2002 6:57:35 PM
- Them, or us. - Bowser - 6/18/2002 6:15:21 PM
  - Re: People keep falling for that, Bowser . . . - D. Spires - 6/19/2002 2:56:47 PM
    - But not you, by golly! - Bowser - 6/19/2002 3:33:31 PM
      - Re: Absolutely pointless . . . - D. Spires - 6/19/2002 4:22:23 PM
- Re: Torture them before they torture us - Vince - 6/18/2002 9:19:29 AM

Bush, Arafat and removal. - Bowser - 6/24/2002 9:06:41 AM
- Tomorrow after Bush Jr meets the G-8 leaders - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 8:04:10 AM
  - Bush Jr call for Israeli withdrawal not being reported - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 8:13:59 AM
    - All the news that fits. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 2:35:32 PM
      - Our media is failing us - E.P. Grondine - 6/25/2002 5:10:11 PM
- Since he doesn't like Arafat and Sharon is taking the blame - enelson - 6/24/2002 11:34:27 AM

Karzai 'Poised' to Fight Warlordism . . . - D. Spires - 6/24/2002 1:28:46 PM
- Why not just break Afghanistan up into smaller states. - Lee - 6/25/2002 12:55:08 PM
  - The states are even less viable and even harder to rule if they are tiny. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 4:21:24 PM
    - Re: And harder to protect from outside tyrants . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/25/2002 4:49:04 PM
  - Re: Why . . . ? - D. Spires - 6/25/2002 4:10:07 PM

Would be martyr... - Raoul - 6/23/2002 6:19:54 PM
- Re: Would be martyr... - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2002 9:08:51 AM
  - That a brutal, poorly thought out occupation for 35 years - ebnelson - 6/23/2002 2:47:05 PM
    - Perhaps the Israeli views are shaped by their history - Larry J - 6/24/2002 2:21:58 PM
      - Reality - Bowser - 6/25/2002 4:46:31 PM
    - It isn't about the occupation, and never was. - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2002 6:30:52 PM
      - Re: It isn't about the occupation, and never was. - Buck Galaxy - 6/24/2002 7:52:24 PM
        
        Oops. Very good point. Sorry! - Tom Brosz - 6/24/2002 6:16:20 PM

Oh, swell. - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2002 12:22:38 PM
- Nothing new here - Buck Galaxy - 6/24/2002 7:42:37 PM
  - I'd much rather have people waiting on things to be blown up, - Lee - 6/24/2002 12:59:06 PM
- Revelation - LJ - 6/24/2002 4:04:59 PM
  - Re: Revelation - Tom Brosz - 6/24/2002 5:54:59 PM
    - Great pic, thanks Tom - LJ - 6/24/2002 10:52:43 AM
- Did you notice one guy mentioned works at an Air Force base? - ebnelson - 6/23/2002 1:18:43 PM
  - I can't speak to the religious aspect (being an agnostic)... - alcaray - 6/24/2002 8:05:00 AM
    - Good question: - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 2:38:00 PM
      - Forgive my ignorance - alcaray - 6/25/2002 4:36:25 PM

Arafat go? Didn't say that. Nope. Not me. - Bowser - 6/25/2002 2:23:21 PM
- What is dishonest about this? - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 3:49:25 PM

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