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Canadians' War Effort 'Outstanding' . . . - D. Spires - 7/1/2002 11:52:31 AM

Microsoft Snoop Files - O'Leary - 6/30/2002 7:52:34 PM
- Common knowledge - RNE - 6/30/2002 7:44:35 PM
  - Re: Common knowledge - Tom Brosz - 6/30/2002 9:36:48 AM
    - Re: Common knowledge - O'Leary - 6/30/2002 11:56:31 AM

Today's "Trivial News" Award... - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:44:49 AM
- We need a national photo id - E.P. Grondine - 6/29/2002 4:20:20 PM
- Dead link in the first post... - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:47:34 AM
  - She must be one ugly woman - Scott - 6/28/2002 3:13:20 PM
  - The irony in this story - Matt Burley - 6/28/2002 11:11:58 AM
    - Re: The irony in this story - Raoul - 6/28/2002 4:41:12 PM
      - But covering one's hair doesn't hinder proper identification - Matt Burley - 6/28/2002 4:45:12 PM
        
        Re: But covering one's hair doesn't hinder proper identification - Marcia - 6/28/2002 9:03:29 AM
        
        Re: proper identification - Mary Anne - 6/30/2002 12:21:31 PM
        
        Re: proper identification - Marcia - 6/30/2002 5:22:18 PM
        
        It has everything to do with extreme religious beliefs - Matt Burley - 6/28/2002 1:47:15 PM
        
        I am pretty sure that in Saudi, they get full pictures of women for ID - ebnelson - 6/28/2002 2:21:17 PM
        
        The years were not kind to this woman. (n/t) - O'leary - 6/28/2002 9:32:01 AM
    - Maybe we need a new law...death by stoning (n/t) - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 12:23:20 PM
      - Let he who is without sin.... - Lee - 6/29/2002 9:05:46 AM

Thoughts on the war on terrorism - p - 6/29/2002 10:42:44 AM
- Re: Thoughts on the war on terrorism - Raoul Lannoy - 6/30/2002 10:24:50 AM
  - Re: Thoughts on the war on terrorism - p - 6/30/2002 2:46:54 PM

Silly poll question - Bowser - 6/27/2002 5:46:49 PM
- Is the Constitution unconstitutional? - Larry J - 6/27/2002 7:46:44 PM
  - Re: Is the Constitution unconstitutional? - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 4:57:15 PM
  - How bout Charley Tuna? - R.O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:20:55 AM
  - "God". - Bowser - 6/27/2002 11:08:38 AM
    - In case you didn't know it, Allah is simply the Arabic word for God - Larry J - 6/27/2002 1:06:13 PM
      - Unbecoming. Cheap shot, and it missed. - Bowser - 6/27/2002 3:31:49 PM
        
        Just directly replying to your point - Larry J - 6/28/2002 1:17:25 PM
        
        Couldn't agree more on the politics of it! - Bowser - 6/28/2002 2:59:09 PM
        
        Minor addition - Bowser - 6/28/2002 3:04:30 PM
    - Or maybe we should pluralize it: "under gods". n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 11:13:38 AM
      - Interesting point. - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:20:51 PM
        
        Re: Interesting point. - SDG - 6/28/2002 3:00:19 PM
        
        Haven't heard of that. - Bowser - 6/28/2002 3:24:25 PM
        
        Re: Haven't heard of that. - SDG - 6/28/2002 7:06:49 PM
        
        Thanks. - Bowser - 6/28/2002 7:49:48 PM
      - Re: The current national consensus is one god . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 12:20:57 PM
        
        Actually my suggestion was to address... - alcaray - 6/28/2002 3:44:49 PM
        
        Re: Grammar is correct -- It's the education that's lacking . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 3:49:01 PM
  - Re: Constitutions change! And religion... - Raoul - 6/27/2002 8:32:17 AM
  - Re: Agreed -- kinda . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 8:15:32 AM
    - Calendars - Larry J - 6/27/2002 8:55:13 AM
- Re: Silly poll question - SDG - 6/27/2002 7:07:31 PM
- Re: Silly poll question - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 9:44:42 AM
  - I know I'm going to be killed for saying this: saying the pledge is *not* voluntary for children in public school n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 10:42:44 AM
    - not killed, this is America afterall - SDG - 6/28/2002 3:23:20 PM
      - Re: not killed, this is America afterall - alcaray - 6/28/2002 4:02:34 PM
        
        Re: As I recall . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 4:42:19 PM
        
        Peer pressure, resistance, and violence: recommended reading for everybody - Mary Anne - 6/30/2002 12:53:01 PM
  - Re: Well, the issue is kids, really -- or at least it should be . . . - D. Spires - 6/27/2002 10:27:40 AM

Rant: Another ratchet toward socialism - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 12:18:20 PM
- Re: All is always well....... - Raoul - 6/29/2002 3:19:04 PM
  - Choices - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:31:51 PM
  - Re: All is always well....... - Bowser - 6/29/2002 4:32:20 PM
    - Not sure why I bother, but here goes again... - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:03:14 PM
      - Re: Not sure why I bother, but here goes again... - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 12:07:11 PM
    - A job, health care, and a place to live are rights? - Lee - 6/29/2002 6:58:56 PM
    - Re: All is always well....... - Raoul - 6/29/2002 6:32:18 PM
- More successes of unrestrained capitalism - Bowser - 6/28/2002 1:17:59 PM
  - Whoa! Beat me to the punch! - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 1:27:54 PM
    - Greed v. Capitalism - Bowser - 6/28/2002 6:00:48 PM
      - Re: Greed v. Capitalism - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 4:44:14 PM
        
        Capitalism - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:58:07 PM
        
        A myth - Bowser - 6/29/2002 12:10:58 PM
        
        Re: A myth is as good as a mile - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 4:10:51 PM
        
        Re: Capitalism - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 11:16:30 AM
        
        The debate - Bowser - 6/29/2002 6:23:23 PM
      - Re: Greed v. Capitalism - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 6:13:27 PM
        
        The Board - Bowser - 6/28/2002 6:50:58 PM
        
        Re: The Board - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:54:19 PM
    - Re: Whoa! Beat me to the punch! - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/28/2002 1:42:39 PM

School Vouchers get a Green Light.... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 12:32:56 PM
- Hooray! - Mary Anne - 6/28/2002 12:27:41 PM
  - Re: Hooray! - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 4:36:48 PM
    - You forget where I live - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 2:41:15 PM
    - Beware the Law of Unintended Consequences - Fox - 6/28/2002 4:37:22 PM
      - Unintended Consequences? Public Schools. - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:50:40 PM
        
        Re: I can't take the time to find the source right now, but... - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 1:55:11 PM
        
        Compulsory education - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 8:22:39 AM
        
        Manure by any other name... - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 10:42:28 AM
  - That may be one set of consequences. - ebnelsopn - 6/28/2002 2:04:40 PM
    - Actually, Ed... - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 2:52:13 PM
  - That's one possibility - Larry J - 6/28/2002 1:07:04 PM
    - You're right about the importance of choice - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 2:25:14 PM
- Re: School Vouchers get a Green Light.... - p - 6/28/2002 12:07:11 PM
- It is about time.§ (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/27/2002 5:17:52 PM
  - School Vouchers - Lindy - 6/28/2002 5:55:23 PM

Bush to Push for Corporate Reforms . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 5:00:33 PM
- While they're at it, they should hold government to the same standards - Larry J - 6/29/2002 4:11:56 PM
  - Re: While they're at it - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 6:28:57 PM
  - example: Amtrak - p - 6/29/2002 5:05:24 PM
    - Amtrak - Bowser - 6/29/2002 6:08:52 PM
      - Re: Amtrak doesn't move the freight - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 6:35:14 PM
        
        You're right. - Bowser - 6/29/2002 7:09:17 PM
        
        I had to be reminded too - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 7:34:57 PM

Dang! Gone for three days and I'm three pages behind. - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 5:02:30 PM
- The First Amendment *always* applies, Tom - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 6:47:00 PM
  - Disney character - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 8:07:51 AM
- We missed you. - Bowser - 6/28/2002 6:26:33 PM
  - Missed you too, but I noticed my ulcer got smaller ;) - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 7:23:34 PM
    - Re: W’ll, yeah . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 10:33:28 AM
      - Re: W’ll, yeah . . . - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 11:00:21 AM
- Evidence proving Bush should be impeached? - p - 6/28/2002 5:46:28 PM
  - Hysteria - Bowser - 6/28/2002 6:31:03 PM
  - Re: Evidence proving Bush should be impeached? - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:26:32 AM
  - Well, saying that and applying a religious test are extremely diferent things. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/28/2002 8:01:17 AM
- Oh yeah, then there's this... - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 5:30:51 PM
  - Well, this is a worry. - Bowser - 6/29/2002 7:27:00 PM
    - No worries, mate. - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 8:06:12 AM
  - They don't want reguation, they want money. - ebnelson - 6/28/2002 8:57:25 AM

Wild Fires - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 3:44:31 PM
- Frogpond Tavern - Bowser - 6/29/2002 7:04:59 PM
  - You and Ozzie? - ebenlson - 6/29/2002 7:22:35 PM
  - Re: Frogpond Tavern - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 10:58:09 AM
    - The place I remember - - Bowser - 6/29/2002 1:15:49 PM
      - Re: The place I remember - - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 3:20:22 PM
- Re: Wild Fires - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2002 6:48:49 PM
  - Re: Wild Fires - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 11:01:06 AM

Jordan Denies Press Reports About U.S. Military Presence as Part of Preparations for Attack on Iraq . . . - D. Spires - 6/29/2002 5:08:26 PM
- This is probably a move by Iraq - ebnelson - 6/29/2002 5:44:53 PM

Gotta love Fred - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 3:13:56 PM
- That is so so funny!!! § (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/29/2002 5:40:56 PM

Unsung Heroes of the War on Terror . . . - D. Spires - 6/29/2002 5:31:29 PM

Ammo Dump Blast Kills At Least 19 . . . - D. Spires - 6/29/2002 4:43:05 PM
- Soldiers Clear Live Munitions from Afghan Town After Blast; Death Toll at 25 . . . - D. Spires - 6/29/2002 5:20:06 PM

North & South Korea Warships Exchange Fire . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 4:40:25 PM
- North Korea ahtes the success of South Korea in the World Cup so badly. - ebnelson - 6/29/2002 4:26:31 PM
- Re: North & South Korea Warships Exchange Fire . . . - O'Leary - 6/29/2002 3:55:12 PM

Disney the victim of Goofy accounting - Matt Burley - 6/28/2002 1:56:30 PM
- Re: Disney the victim of Goofy accounting - E.P. Grondine - 6/29/2002 4:16:20 PM

(no subject) - If I Were King - 6/29/2002 12:53:33 PM
- "Sugar Daddy has left the building..." That's good. LOL (n/t) - Lee - 6/29/2002 2:01:51 PM

More from the why the US is better than the UK Dept. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 12:45:40 PM
- Thanks for filling in! ;) (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 5:20:45 PM
- In UK they have to "stick a gun barrel to the heads of their kids" to get them to have sex? They need psychologists more than condoms. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/28/2002 4:07:49 PM
- Re: Amen brother - R.O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:28:37 AM
- Getting All Worked Up About Sex - Lindy - 6/27/2002 4:06:59 PM
  - "Couple of big bags??" - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 5:19:53 PM
    - Memory - Mary Anne - 6/29/2002 11:37:40 AM
  - Re: Getting All Worked Up About Sex - SDG - 6/28/2002 4:40:49 PM
    - Re: Getting All Worked Up About Sex - Lindy - 6/28/2002 5:53:44 PM
      - Re: Getting All Worked Up About Sex - SDG - 6/28/2002 6:30:50 PM
        
        Congratualtions SDG - Lindy - 6/28/2002 3:23:03 PM
  - The kinda women Lindy's daughters will turn out to be... - p - 6/28/2002 1:56:54 PM
    - My impression of Lindy's daughters: - alcaray - 6/28/2002 4:14:12 PM
      - Re: My impression of Lindy's daughters: - Lindy - 6/28/2002 6:09:36 PM
  - Controlling a 14 year old - FrankC - 6/27/2002 4:44:38 PM
    - Re: Controlling a 14 year old - Lindy - 6/28/2002 6:05:04 PM
  - A wise man - - - - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:41:23 PM
  - Yeah this is why its so funny that those stupid Islamic Suicide Bombers believe in virgins. - Scott - 6/27/2002 4:20:55 PM
    - YMBO (Yuk My Butt Off) - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 9:33:07 AM

Broz made the fire call here - p - 6/28/2002 4:41:44 PM
- Re: Brosz made the fire call here - Tom Brosz - 6/28/2002 4:44:57 PM
  - Re: Brosz made the fire call here - p - 6/28/2002 5:00:23 PM

Suspected al Qaeda Fugitives Said Seized in Pakistan . . . - D. Spires - 6/28/2002 4:50:17 PM

Pledge of Allegiance - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 10:27:16 AM
- Modest question: what would be wrong with *not* forcing all children in public schools to memorize and recite "under God" every day? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 4:38:52 PM
  - While we're at it... - Larry J - 6/27/2002 5:02:30 PM
    - All sarcasm aside... - alcaray - 6/27/2002 5:16:17 PM
      - It is, as one senator called it, "Political Correctness Run Amok" - Larry J - 6/27/2002 5:45:51 PM
        
        Re: It is, as one senator called it, - alcaray - 6/27/2002 6:04:24 PM
        
        No, they're just screaming about any mention - Larry J - 6/27/2002 6:10:41 PM
        
        OK Larry. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 6:17:16 PM
    - Next the extremists will ban The Declaration of Independence as unlawful. - ebnelson - 6/27/2002 10:16:50 AM
      - I keep trying to have intellegent discussions around here. What's wrong with me??? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/27/2002 10:24:37 AM
        
        SInce when? - Larry J - 6/27/2002 1:08:11 PM
        
        Since you actually are referring to something I posted, this time, you win another direct response! - alcaray - 6/27/2002 2:14:12 PM
        
        I listened to the plaintiff in the case on the radio for 30 minutes yesterday - Larry J - 6/28/2002 1:12:11 PM
        
        If only I could have gotten you to listen to me. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/28/2002 3:35:22 PM
        
        Why bother when you don't address the point? nt (n/t) - Larry J - 6/28/2002 4:32:10 PM
        
        Intelligence is a relative issue old bean (n/t) - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 12:21:23 PM
  - Amen! - Bowser - 6/27/2002 4:52:49 PM
  - Re: Modest question: what would be wrong with *not* forcing all children in public schools to memorize and recite - p - 6/27/2002 4:49:00 PM
- I think the Founding Fathers, including Jefferson, - ebnelson - 6/27/2002 1:28:11 PM
- What's The Beef? - R.O'Leary - 6/27/2002 9:12:39 AM

Even Slate is calling for AMTRAK's execution. - Scott - 6/28/2002 4:21:17 PM

Is SDAI-Tech behind this ruse? - p - 6/28/2002 12:40:09 PM
- Hey to me...nothing is sacred... ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/28/2002 11:27:38 AM

How 3,000 Crack British Troops Failed to Find the Enemy . . . - D. Spires - 6/24/2002 2:05:50 PM
- Re: How 3,000 Crack British Troops Failed to Find the Enemy . . . - O'Leary - 6/28/2002 12:31:30 PM
- If I were a British Royal Marine... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/24/2002 2:49:54 PM
  - Re: Apathy is everyone's enemy, and that is what reports of this type build . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/25/2002 4:44:45 PM
- Candor - Bowser - 6/24/2002 2:49:44 PM
  - Re: No real point in calling a success a failure . . . - D. Spires - 6/25/2002 4:41:16 PM
    - Try to stay with what was said. - Bowser - 6/25/2002 5:21:11 PM
      - Re: ri-i-ght . . . - D. Spires - 6/25/2002 9:54:26 AM
  - No, it is not candor. - ebnelson - 6/25/2002 2:50:33 PM

Free confidential Analysis (HUSH HUSH!) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 11:00:03 AM
- I'm thinking of joining aQ - p - 6/27/2002 2:57:22 PM
  - Never been to a STARBUCKS?!!!! - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 10:20:48 AM
    - Re: Never been to a STARBUCKS?!!!! - p - 6/28/2002 12:09:42 PM
- Re: PS - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/27/2002 11:11:13 AM

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