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What next?- The United States threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" - Bowser - 9/22/2006 1:19:43 AM
- Pakistan in Pre-Stone Age era of Development - carl - 9/22/2006 5:35:34 PM
- With diplomats like Armitage....... - Lindy - 9/22/2006 1:30:27 AM

An interesting quote - Laurie Street - 9/21/2006 7:16:36 PM
- re: An interesting quote - McFly - 9/22/2006 2:16:30 PM
- re: An interesting quote - Publius - 9/21/2006 10:12:10 PM
- WOW! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/21/2006 7:42:04 PM

Bush & Cheney - Five Years of Shame and Corruption - Eric - 9/22/2006 11:05:34 AM
- Damning - squandering unanimity and world support. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/22/2006 2:11:13 PM

Iraq: A Hellish Nightmare - Eric - 9/21/2006 5:26:11 PM
- JELB! A cry for logic and reason. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/21/2006 11:13:12 PM
  - "It's normal" - Lindy - 9/22/2006 1:35:02 AM
    - History lesson for the JELB crowd (and everyone else too!) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/22/2006 3:23:45 AM
      - Bush's contention is that... - alcaray - 9/22/2006 6:32:41 AM
  - Please. No straight lines. No cheap shots. - Bowser - 9/22/2006 12:52:41 AM
- Why am I not surprised? - Lindy - 9/21/2006 6:50:09 PM
  - The blame will start. Iraqis, Democrats, Iran, Syria. Anyone but Bush & Co. - Bowser - 9/21/2006 6:53:03 PM
    - Yes, the blame will start, and strangely there won't be any answers - E.P. - 9/22/2006 3:11:28 AM
- What hath Bush wrought? UN - worse'n Saddam. - Bowser - 9/21/2006 6:18:25 PM

Bush's Gitmo Gulag Torture Chamber Worse Than Suspected - Eric - 9/22/2006 1:34:33 AM
- It's appalling they can find Americans to do that. Tragic. For them, for us. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/22/2006 4:34:32 AM

"Md. spot claims MLK, Jr. a Republican, Democrats started Ku Klux Klan " - Here we go!! - Bowser - 9/22/2006 2:18:51 AM

A very funny article on Bush and "freedom". - Bowser - 9/21/2006 8:13:10 AM
- You have to keep in mind democracy is messy..... - Publius - 9/21/2006 10:27:26 PM

Iraq Death Toll Surges - Donald - 9/21/2006 4:49:14 AM
- Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - Lindy - 9/21/2006 2:56:54 PM
- Meanwhile... - Donald - 9/21/2006 4:52:35 AM

Perspective - "Ted Turner says Iraq war among history's "dumbest" (With Pearl Harbor, invasion of Russia) - Bowser - 9/20/2006 1:24:09 AM
- Dumb and irresponsible actions come from dumb and incompetent people. (n/t) - Eric - 9/20/2006 1:58:09 PM
  - You can't argue with a born-again Christian - Lindy - 9/20/2006 2:30:46 PM
    - It's what happens when you elect a Root Boy Slim fan president - E.P. - 9/21/2006 4:48:47 AM
    - Repeating history - Eric - 9/20/2006 3:35:21 PM
- re: Perspective - "Ted Turner says Iraq war among history's "dumbest" (With Pearl Harbor, invasion of Russia) - Suzy - 9/20/2006 7:46:25 AM
  - re: Ted Turner - McFly - 9/20/2006 4:24:01 PM
    - World-class mariner, too. - ER - 9/21/2006 12:30:41 AM
- Don't find anything to disagree with there - Lindy - 9/20/2006 2:36:20 AM

"Bush lays out Mideast peace plan at U.N." - Kill 'em all. Wipe 'em out. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 7:07:38 PM
- You remind me of a ball of 'flubber' trapped inside it's own little box. (n/t) - RobVG - 9/21/2006 12:34:32 AM
  - Super-funny. Talkin' 'bout Bush, I presume! Great line. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/21/2006 1:36:23 AM
    - Well, I thought it was funny. (n/t) - RobVG - 9/21/2006 2:17:25 AM
      - And it does apply to us both. - Bowser - 9/21/2006 3:33:06 AM
        
        Atta boy. - RobVG - 9/21/2006 3:47:58 AM
        
        No, Atta Boy to you. Your characterization. - Bowser - 9/21/2006 4:22:23 AM
- Major media fail once again to report W''s call for a Palestinian state - E.P. - 9/20/2006 9:30:12 AM
- Worse than I thought. GWB humiliated every American. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 3:08:53 AM

Unintended consequences - "Iran a regional superpower". Not Bush. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 2:48:47 PM
- Yup - Donald - 9/21/2006 1:26:12 AM
- Exactly and that's why Bush father didn't want to invade Iraq - Raoul - 9/20/2006 3:01:51 PM

Open your Diebold AccuVote-TS with a minibar key - Eric - 9/19/2006 12:45:51 PM
- Let's see the exit polls and final results in Diebold Country again. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 8:30:54 PM
  - The knife cuts both ways with these hackable voting machines. (n/t) - Eric - 9/20/2006 2:21:48 PM
    - Not really. The manufacturer and programmer have the advantage. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 10:50:06 PM

You know you've lost when they're willing to die and you aren't. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 10:42:50 PM
- Kamikaze--pilots who wanted to die against gunners who wanted to live. (n/t) - ER - 9/20/2006 7:45:11 PM
  - Hey, methamphetamines worked then, maybe that's what's needed now? (n/t) - Publius - 9/20/2006 10:02:50 PM
    - They went through the willing ones fast, then had other measures. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 10:49:08 PM
- Link not working (n/t) - Lindy - 9/20/2006 1:27:08 AM
  - Thanks, Lindy. Here 'tis. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 3:14:46 AM

Real torture - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 4:22:53 AM
- Let's stamp it out. Maybe if we can catch a few of them and torture them... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 10:23:37 PM
  - George's "war" has stirred up generations of hate - Lindy - 9/19/2006 2:49:00 PM
- If all the US was doing was "making someone stand in an uncomfortable position" there wouldnt be a problem, or a discussion. (n/t) - Tony - 9/18/2006 3:49:27 PM
  - List of CIA techniques - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2006 1:29:13 AM
  - I actually agree with you on this. - REB - 9/18/2006 4:17:52 PM
- Whatever are you talking about? - David F Mayer - 9/18/2006 12:25:01 PM
- Sigh. Here we go again. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 5:00:21 AM
- re: Capital Punishment 25 years ago - Raoul - 9/17/2006 8:10:54 PM
  - How's the crime rate over that time? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:29:55 PM
    - re: From here - Raoul - 9/17/2006 10:09:31 PM
      - re: From here - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2006 12:20:21 AM
        
        statistics won't save you on this issue - FrankC - 9/18/2006 6:05:33 PM
        
        re: statistics won't save you on this issue - REB - 9/18/2006 6:17:03 PM
        
        If we can put a man on the moon.... - FrankC - 9/18/2006 8:05:11 PM
        
        Yeah, it's called death. - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:42:09 AM
        
        re: From here - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 4:07:52 AM
        
        PS - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 4:10:15 AM
        
        Actually, I was talking about France. - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2006 4:21:58 AM
        
        Sorry to interject a data point that doesn't fit your curve - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:37:26 AM
        
        Personally, I'm not opposed to the concept of capital punishment... - ER - 9/18/2006 7:26:42 PM
        
        If you are old fashioned, does that make you a conservative? - Publius - 9/19/2006 3:25:24 PM
        
        I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, Mr P. - ER - 9/19/2006 5:47:17 PM
        
        Not discussing legal issues, philosophy, or morality... - Publius - 9/19/2006 7:37:27 PM
        
        Azstrummer, below, makes some good points... (n/t) - ER - 9/19/2006 9:59:52 PM
        
        me too....except.... - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 8:59:24 PM
        
        When I was in high school... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 9:19:31 PM
        
        Would you be willing to take that to the logical conclusion? - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:51:37 AM
        
        I think he does it to get a rise out of us - Lindy - 9/20/2006 1:57:44 AM
        
        Perhaps the solution is to reserve capital punishment for corporate crime. (n/t) - ER - 9/20/2006 11:04:29 AM
        
        So why the protest? - Lee - 9/20/2006 5:35:53 AM
        
        Sure, Lee - most murders are committed by males, so... - Laurie Street - 9/19/2006 4:28:06 PM
        
        Well he asked to be shown - Lee - 9/19/2006 7:14:58 PM
        
        Is that what that was about? - alcaray - 9/19/2006 8:43:24 PM
        
        Can't imagine a mind that would think that was the next logical conclusion. Charlie Manson, is that you? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2006 3:36:29 PM
- Indeed it is horrific - Lindy - 9/17/2006 5:29:31 PM
- re: Real torture - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 5:23:24 PM
  - NA attrocities - FrankC - 9/17/2006 6:08:02 PM
    - re: NA attrocities - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 5:29:53 PM
  - History - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 6:00:58 PM
    - Definition of torture - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:51:49 AM
- We should look to North Korea to set moral standards? (n/t) - Robert - 9/17/2006 5:10:29 PM
  - Saw that coming ten miles away. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 5:55:54 PM
    - I was counting on it. - Robert - 9/17/2006 8:21:45 PM
      - re: Redux - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:23:26 PM
        
        re: Redux - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:42:01 AM

Time for another friendly reminder - alcaray - 9/18/2006 6:00:16 PM
- re: Time for another friendly reminder - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2006 1:13:02 AM
  - Failed predictions should have consequences - dtb - 9/20/2006 5:53:30 AM
  - So no disappointment? All going according to (the latest) plan? - alcaray - 9/19/2006 3:39:21 PM
- I have an answer........ - Lindy - 9/18/2006 11:48:28 PM
- Or am I wrong? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/18/2006 11:09:14 PM
  - Watch out. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 11:41:53 PM
    - "Whatever we've got now isn't victory yet, but it sure ain't a quagmire." - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2006 11:51:50 PM

Abizaid -"are prudent force levels" that are achieving the needed military effect". This is what they want?. - Bowser - 9/20/2006 3:13:06 AM

George Orwell's 1984 prediction - Eric - 9/17/2006 12:10:17 AM
- You forgot the "Three MInutes' Hate" - Fox - 9/17/2006 5:42:31 PM
  - Look around. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 6:57:52 PM
    - Already did; hence, my post. (n/t) - Fox - 9/17/2006 9:01:05 PM
      - It's unlike you to rip into Robert et al like that! Good for you! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 3:49:35 AM
        
        It's important to you to be hated, isn't it? - Robert - 9/18/2006 6:51:00 PM
        
        Don't overlook the facade...... - Publius - 9/19/2006 12:40:14 AM
        
        Guess I don't fit the mold then - azstrummer - 9/19/2006 2:26:02 AM
        
        Perzactly the point Art..... - Publius - 9/19/2006 3:41:58 PM
        
        re: Perzactly the point Art..... - REB - 9/19/2006 4:23:14 PM
        
        and, ahhh just what majority would that be? the "Moral" one? - Publius - 9/19/2006 7:24:34 PM
        
        Once upon a time... - REB - 9/19/2006 8:50:35 PM
        
        "Then 9/11 had to happen. " - Lindy - 9/20/2006 2:54:12 AM
        
        If only I could give you the gift of perspective... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/19/2006 12:24:25 AM
        
        Thanks, but I couldn't possibly, you need all you can get - Robert - 9/19/2006 5:39:13 AM
        
        re: Thanks, but I couldn't possibly, you need all you can get - REB - 9/19/2006 3:58:29 PM
        
        Anger, hatred, and arms races - Robert - 9/19/2006 5:15:38 PM
        
        Dr. Robert - Lindy - 9/18/2006 10:11:44 PM

How do the faithful feel about our congressmen accepting bribes from Syrians? - alcaray - 9/18/2006 6:32:11 PM
- Oh, what a few months can do...... - Lindy - 9/18/2006 11:34:38 PM
- If he did it, send him to prison. (n/t) - REB - 9/18/2006 6:44:44 PM
  - Of course. But if a Democrat did it... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 8:59:04 PM
    - So send the traitor to prison... - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:13:52 AM
    - Litmus test. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 9:30:12 PM
      - re: Litmus test. - REB - 9/18/2006 9:41:28 PM
        
        re: Litmus test. - Lindy - 9/18/2006 11:40:44 PM
        
        re: Litmus test. - REB - 9/19/2006 1:35:41 PM
        
        "I agree, but show me where President Bush lied to star a war." - Bowser - 9/18/2006 11:36:07 PM
        
        re: "I agree, but show me where President Bush lied to star a war." - REB - 9/19/2006 1:17:59 PM
        
        Let's refresh your memory. - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:26:53 AM
        
        Clinton didn't start that war. Bush did. Speaking of "memory". - Bowser - 9/19/2006 3:53:06 AM
        
        Those quotes aren't from Bush - Lee - 9/19/2006 7:00:19 AM
    - re: Of course. But if a Democrat did it... - REB - 9/18/2006 9:15:34 PM
      - Who said he committed treason? - Lindy - 9/18/2006 11:45:58 PM
        
        I am not, I don't know enough about the case to say one way or the other - REB - 9/19/2006 3:50:19 PM
        
        Alcaray - RobVG - 9/19/2006 12:42:17 AM
        
        re: Alcaray - REB - 9/19/2006 3:47:22 PM
        
        Lindy's point was that we are not at war with Syria - hence the "stretch". (n/t) - RobVG - 9/20/2006 2:11:46 AM
        
        I certainly did not say he committed treason! Read it again. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2006 3:34:28 PM
        
        Sorry, let me expand on that a little. - alcaray - 9/19/2006 5:57:59 PM
        
        Last time I looked, most of 'those' people that thought 'that' way, are gone. (n/t) - RobVG - 9/20/2006 2:14:14 AM

Three big-time idiots. Complete morons. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 4:17:35 AM
- HTML is your friend :-) - McFly - 9/19/2006 5:38:58 PM
  - "Some people seem to think a War on Terror isn't causing enough suffering, so we need a Clash of Civilizations." - Lindy - 9/20/2006 1:23:36 AM
  - oops! - McFly - 9/19/2006 5:45:40 PM
    - Thanks. Copied it, will give it a try. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/19/2006 7:08:33 PM
- So Al Qaida aren't morons? - Buck Galaxy - 9/19/2006 4:39:04 AM

Keith Olbermann Tells It Like It Is - Donald - 9/13/2006 1:23:25 AM
- LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2006 12:57:11 AM
  - re: LOL! - Robert - 9/14/2006 1:43:50 AM
    - C'mon let's rumble. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2006 3:30:42 AM
      - I'm still waiting - Robert - 9/14/2006 6:23:01 PM
        
        too many letters - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 9:08:13 PM
        
        except... - Robert - 9/16/2006 4:07:57 PM
        
        "by cutting off the head of the snake,." - Lindy - 9/17/2006 1:41:09 AM
        
        ...and other parables - Robert - 9/17/2006 5:08:46 PM
        
        parables - Lindy - 9/17/2006 6:11:23 PM
        
        re: parables - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 9:36:23 PM
        
        Doing the right thing, doesn't always work - Lindy - 9/18/2006 2:37:11 AM
        
        Yeah! That class is not going to be biased. LOL! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 6:54:59 AM
        
        We need an acronym then - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 5:40:59 PM
        
        How about "acons"? - Robert - 9/17/2006 7:35:06 PM
        
        Works for me. (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 9:31:34 PM
        
        Personally I think it sounds kind of nuts (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 4:27:32 PM
        
        Go Robert!! - Lindy - 9/15/2006 1:09:44 AM
        
        yee haw! (n/t) - Robert - 9/16/2006 5:14:51 PM
        
        You want in-depth? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2006 11:57:30 PM
        
        Sure. What I got was shallow - Robert - 9/16/2006 4:39:04 PM
        
        Forget Dean. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 5:44:50 PM
        
        "Olbermann's doppelganger" - Lindy - 9/15/2006 1:51:36 AM
        
        " I'll coin a phrase here and call such studies and scientific sounding political propaganda, SDAI-pop-prop. (n/t) - Lindy - 9/15/2006 1:42:56 AM
        
        Typo: That's "SDAI-poop-prop" - Robert - 9/16/2006 5:14:26 PM
        
        re: I'm still waiting - Laurie Street - 9/14/2006 8:01:24 PM
        
        The GUT of politics - Robert - 9/16/2006 4:03:02 PM
        
        LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 9:12:57 PM
        
        Ready, fire, aim! - Robert - 9/17/2006 4:51:51 PM
        
        The power of selection - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 12:06:59 AM
        
        FDR - wiretaps, intimidation, misuse of FBI & IRS. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 1:32:48 AM
        
        Dang! Looks like they finally have no answers! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/19/2006 12:14:48 AM
        
        "it's up to you to take it and save yourself though." - Lindy - 9/18/2006 2:38:43 AM
        
        Saving Robert from Cannery Row... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 3:39:29 AM
        
        re: Saving Robert from Cannery Row... - Publius - 9/19/2006 7:28:23 PM
        
        We're from two different planets Tech1 - Lindy - 9/18/2006 3:21:59 PM
        
        Yeah, Jonathan Alter is going to tell you how it is. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 6:45:33 PM
        
        Is that the best you can do? - Robert - 9/17/2006 7:40:06 PM
        
        re: Is that the best YOU can do? - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:33:15 PM
        
        "I can predict the response to this post, too." - Robert - 9/19/2006 9:41:43 PM
        
        Neither predict, nor comprehend. - Tom Brosz - 9/20/2006 1:14:39 AM
        
        "The uneducated rally behind anyone who promises them the most." - Lindy - 9/17/2006 3:02:02 AM
      - re: C'mon let's rumble. - REB - 9/14/2006 2:11:36 PM
        
        Bush bashing - azstrummer - 9/14/2006 6:11:16 PM
        
        re: C'mon let's rumble. - REB - 9/14/2006 3:11:38 PM
        
        Liberals haven't given up - Robert - 9/16/2006 5:11:53 PM
        
        "I am still very puzzled as to why Liberals......" - Lindy - 9/15/2006 3:38:01 AM
        
        re: "I am still very puzzled as to why Liberals......" - REB - 9/15/2006 1:36:18 PM
        
        "â€œIt also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them. " - Lindy - 9/15/2006 2:06:59 AM
        
        Opposing a war does not equal supporting its government - alcaray - 9/14/2006 5:51:59 PM
        
        South Africa - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2006 4:51:39 PM
      - Ya know what? Let's not. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2006 3:57:09 AM
        
        Religionization of politics - Tony - 9/14/2006 8:04:34 PM
        
        "â€œWhat good fortune for those in power that the people do not think.â€-- - Lindy - 9/15/2006 2:10:50 AM
        
        not helping (n/t) - Tony - 9/15/2006 4:33:00 PM
        
        not helping (n/t) - Tony - 9/15/2006 4:32:58 PM
        
        Derailing the train - Robert - 9/14/2006 7:13:27 PM
        
        re: Derailing the train - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2006 12:54:44 AM
        
        I see... - Robert - 9/16/2006 5:55:48 PM
        
        Pay attention. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 8:46:13 PM
        
        Try to stay focused - Robert - 9/17/2006 4:58:14 PM
        
        Focus. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 6:29:07 PM
        
        Focus closer...nearer the nose on your face - Robert - 9/17/2006 8:12:18 PM
        
        I give up. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:35:32 PM
        
        That's the problem right there - Robert - 9/18/2006 5:04:20 PM
        
        Robert, I was discussing the original sources. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2006 1:32:12 AM
        
        Tom, the victim - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 8:37:22 PM
        
        Tom's double speak - Lindy - 9/15/2006 1:41:28 AM
        
        I hear ya...but... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2006 4:56:55 AM
        
        Your satire misses the mark. - alcaray - 9/14/2006 5:58:28 PM
        
        I thought not (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2006 3:43:32 PM
        
        Look around. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2006 6:28:47 AM
        
        Woah. Way to drive home a point. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2006 6:38:45 AM
- A must see, indeed. Elect that man President. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/13/2006 5:04:50 PM
- Wow... - Robert - 9/13/2006 4:41:26 PM
  - Agreed - Lindy - 9/13/2006 5:08:23 PM
- re: Keith Olbermann Tells It Like It Is - azstrummer - 9/13/2006 3:14:09 PM

CLERIC SAYS AHMADINEJAD AND NASRALLAH ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE 12TH IMAM - gbaikie - 9/19/2006 7:27:40 PM

The Presidential IQ Report: GWB Scores Lowest - Eric - 9/18/2006 1:58:37 PM
- Not True. You are being lied to. - REB - 9/18/2006 2:40:27 PM
  - Bush's low IQ is very understandable (n/t) - Eric - 9/19/2006 3:28:51 AM
    - But he does not have a low IQ. There is not real data saying he does. That Bush has a low IQ is a hoax. - REB - 9/19/2006 1:14:42 PM
  - re: Not True. You are being lied to. - Lindy - 9/18/2006 3:40:47 PM
    - It was a hoax. The report is not true. There is no "Lovenstein Institute" - REB - 9/18/2006 3:50:05 PM
      - re: It was a hoax. The report is not true. There is no "Lovenstein Institute" - Lindy - 9/18/2006 6:08:23 PM
        
        Heh, heh. If there were, GWB would come out at 91, etc. And some others wouldn't. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 9:41:11 PM
        
        Tthose sound like fair estimates..... - Lindy - 9/18/2006 10:00:47 PM
      - Sorry Lindy - REB - 9/18/2006 4:11:27 PM
- Thanks, interesting. - Lindy - 9/18/2006 2:06:02 PM

An unintended reason to support the Constitution Bush is trying to destroy. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 9:24:12 PM
- Maybe they're locked up because they hate us and wish to see us dead. - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:34:09 AM
  - If they didn't before they do now. Blame 'em? You hate a lot, too. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 3:50:30 AM
- Churchill recognized the loss ........... - Publius - 9/18/2006 9:50:44 PM

Hey, Pakistan. Thanks loads. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 4:36:41 AM
- Pakistan has really knuckled under. Too bad. - David F Mayer - 9/18/2006 8:08:56 PM
- re: Hey, Pakistan. Thanks loads. - azstrummer - 9/16/2006 4:23:02 PM
  - Go look up "shut down Guantanamo." - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 5:40:38 PM
    - re: Go look up British Common Law, and Amendments V, VI and VIII. - Mary Anne - 9/16/2006 8:46:42 PM
      - No prisoner of war has ever fallen into this category throughout our history. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 9:24:29 PM
        
        And if these people were being treated as prisoners of war, you'd have a point. - Mary Anne - 9/16/2006 10:11:59 PM
        
        Which prisons are we talking about? Guantanamo? - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 10:38:51 PM
        
        No, the secret ones that Bush just admitted we had. - Mary Anne - 9/16/2006 11:37:13 PM
        
        re: No, the secret ones that Bush just admitted we had. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 12:17:23 AM
    - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 6:03:23 PM
      - re: P.S. - azstrummer - 9/16/2006 11:24:18 PM
        
        So now your contention is we aren't at war. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 12:20:49 AM
        
        No, we aren't in a DECLARED war. - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 5:37:38 PM

Geo-engineering option - Buck Galaxy - 9/16/2006 5:31:27 AM
- Fight pollution with more pollution???? Sounds like a loser. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/18/2006 12:17:26 PM
  - I agree with you on this one, David. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 3:38:02 PM
- re: Geo-engineering option - ER - 9/16/2006 2:10:43 PM
- re: Geo-engineering option - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2006 6:30:30 AM
  - All climate models are primitive. - David F Mayer - 9/18/2006 8:07:25 PM
  - don't forget it will ruin the economy - alcaray - 9/16/2006 4:28:45 PM

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