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Mr. President, oil isn't worth dying for - Greg - 11/24/2003 3:19:27 PM
- re: Yes -- better to nuke the place and be done with it . . . - D. Spires - 11/25/2003 8:02:26 PM
  - re: Yes -- better to nuke the place and be done with it . . . - Greg - 11/26/2003 7:57:39 AM
    - re: Uh-huh . . . - D. Spires - 11/26/2003 6:20:17 PM
      - re: Uh-huh . . . - Greg - 11/27/2003 5:56:44 AM
    - re: shades of grey - Raoul - 11/26/2003 5:36:55 PM
  - The only way Bush loses in '04 - ebnelson - 11/26/2003 3:58:54 AM
- Please share your plans for an oil free life (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 3:35:46 AM
  - So you are planless? - ebnelson - 11/26/2003 3:55:13 AM
- Actually it is. - Todd - 11/24/2003 10:25:13 PM
  - re: C'mon, Tom . . . - D. Spires - 11/25/2003 8:05:28 PM
- re: Staying - Raoul - 11/24/2003 5:28:43 PM

Rush Limbaugh: "Where is the party of limited government?" - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:54:27 PM
- There is no stopping it - FrankC - 11/26/2003 3:32:44 AM
  - Another trip down memory lane - Robert - 11/26/2003 4:43:05 AM
    - re: Another trip down memory lane - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 5:02:02 AM
      - And yet it works - Robert - 11/26/2003 7:15:00 PM
        
        The Constitution - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 8:14:52 PM
        
        The 16th Amendment - Larry J - 11/26/2003 8:24:52 PM
        
        Damn. You're right. - Tom Brosz - 11/27/2003 1:24:33 AM
        
        re: And yet it works - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 8:09:03 PM
        
        And yet it works - Robert - 11/26/2003 11:31:37 PM
        
        re: And yet it works - Tom Brosz - 11/27/2003 1:29:01 AM
        
        And yet it works - Robert - 11/27/2003 5:55:45 AM
      - 1950 - FrankC - 11/26/2003 5:40:36 PM
        
        Good grief - Tony - 11/26/2003 6:18:43 PM
        
        getting old - FrankC - 11/27/2003 12:09:06 AM
  - re: There is no stopping it - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 3:44:59 AM
- Transcript of Rush's comments - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 3:05:43 AM
- Is Rush a rock star? - Lindy - 11/26/2003 2:47:56 AM
  - In a way, "Conservative Rock Star" seems to fit Rush better than does "Political Commentator." :-) (n/t) - McFly - 11/26/2003 6:48:52 PM
  - Hey, I listen to you too, don't I? ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 3:03:35 AM
    - Yeah, but I'm not a right wing hack...... (n/t) - OR a drug addict - 11/26/2003 5:38:26 AM
      - Watch out for the contrails!!!!! (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/26/2003 1:45:35 PM

Are we still calling it the "Bush Economy?" - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:37:09 PM
- It's the "Bush Recovery" following the end of the "Al Queda" recession! (n/t) - gwb - 11/26/2003 12:20:13 AM
- re: Are we still calling it the "Bush Economy?" - Scott Evil - 11/25/2003 6:40:49 PM
- Dear Virginia - Tony - 11/25/2003 6:32:21 PM
  - re: Dear Virginia - Greg - 11/26/2003 4:32:05 AM
  - Really? - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 7:04:12 PM
    - Really - Tony - 11/26/2003 5:23:56 PM
      - Oh, for cripes sake - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 6:31:13 PM
        
        Don't try to tell me what I know or what to think. - Tony - 11/26/2003 6:42:20 PM
        
        Telling you a fact is not telling you what to think. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 7:00:08 PM
        
        Having problems with definitions today? - Tony - 11/26/2003 7:11:18 PM
        
        In case you might have missed a post or two... - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 8:24:37 PM
        
        I know - Tony - 11/26/2003 8:57:27 PM
        
        Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving back at ya! "Good night, Sam." "Good night, Ralph." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/27/2003 1:47:53 AM

Cartoon of Israeli leader eating baby wins prize in England - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 6:27:02 PM
- Jew Bashing is Popular Sport in England and Europe - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/26/2003 10:06:33 PM
- I don't have a problem with that, do you? - Lindy - 11/26/2003 8:25:02 PM
  - How Israelis treat Arab children - Tom Brosz - 11/27/2003 1:19:50 AM

Again, is there a Republican in the house? Or the Senate? - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 9:37:24 PM
- Prescription Drugs were promised by both the Gore and Bush Campaigns in 2000 - Scott Evil - 11/25/2003 12:50:11 AM
  - Yeah, I know. But I don't have to like it. - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:37:54 AM
    - Agreed... - Scott Evil - 11/25/2003 6:23:14 PM
    - Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II - Greg - 11/25/2003 10:25:33 AM
      - Cool! They care! They really care about these citizens! - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/25/2003 7:27:06 PM
        
        survival? (n/t) - FrankC - 11/26/2003 2:50:15 AM
        
        Very good - that's about half of it! - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/26/2003 9:00:49 PM
      - re: Government spending - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 4:41:53 PM
      - Rightwing Meltdown on Medicare Bill - Greg - 11/25/2003 12:00:48 PM
- It's an election year (or two) - Tony - 11/24/2003 9:44:37 PM
  - Americans are brainwashed and half of them are brain dead......... - Lindy - 11/25/2003 9:27:52 PM

American military fired on hotel with journalists killing three. - Jack Herer - 11/26/2003 1:45:38 PM
- Old news - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 5:50:33 PM
- And another story: U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, 'It is war' - Jack Herer - 11/26/2003 5:29:35 PM
  - 24 year old female reservist: symbol of Amerikan brutality. Geez, Don does better than this in his sleep. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 5:55:48 PM
    - re: factual - Raoul - 11/26/2003 8:21:54 PM

Mistakes made - Jack Herer - 11/26/2003 6:01:00 PM

The Three-State Solution - Fox - 11/25/2003 10:52:58 PM
- re: The Three-State Solution - Justin Kelly - 11/26/2003 3:24:17 AM
  - Three-State Solution is a prime failure mode - Gary - 11/26/2003 5:08:07 PM
- re: The Three-State Solution - FrankC - 11/26/2003 2:34:11 AM
- re: The Three-State Solution - SDG - 11/25/2003 11:54:16 PM
- P.S. link to NY Times article - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 11:47:34 PM
- re: The Three-State Solution - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 11:46:30 PM

Sullivan, Klein, and EconoEquiv - Greg - 11/26/2003 5:18:05 AM
- Selling sour grapes (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/26/2003 1:47:39 PM

Republican president selects black woman for one of the most critical posts in his administration - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2003 11:35:17 PM
- re: Republican president selects black woman for one of the most critical posts in his administration - jmlonghorn - 11/26/2003 6:34:53 AM

U.S. terror alert? - Tom Brosz - 11/26/2003 12:31:13 AM
- it doesn't make travel to Europe more relaxing..... (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/26/2003 4:00:38 AM

What the soldiers we don't hear about are doing - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:34:33 AM
- re: And it makes me feel good . . . - D. Spires - 11/25/2003 9:40:20 PM

Kennedy and HMO's - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 7:59:56 PM

This just in: Turkey rewarded by Islamo-fascists for its moderate policy regarding the US coalition - ebnelson - 11/20/2003 2:03:53 PM
- 25 dead and 390 injured - not all British - Justin Kelly - 11/20/2003 2:43:35 PM
  - What would end terrorism? - Robert - 11/20/2003 5:28:58 PM
    - re: What would end terrorism? Lileks comments. - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 5:02:54 PM
    - re: What would end terrorism? - Raoul - 11/20/2003 8:56:56 PM
      - re: What would end terrorism? - Robert - 11/20/2003 9:56:00 PM
        
        re: Discretion - Raoul - 11/21/2003 6:42:28 AM
        
        re: Discretion - Robert - 11/21/2003 4:05:57 PM
        
        The truth - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 4:51:47 PM
        
        Subjective opinion - Robert - 11/21/2003 5:50:22 PM
        
        re: Subjective opinion - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 8:40:50 PM
        
        re: Subjective opinion - Robert - 11/21/2003 8:57:09 PM
        
        Just make sure you check out all the blogs out of Iraq. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/22/2003 12:07:27 AM
        
        Post above might have some relevance to this thread - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 2:59:33 AM
        
        Alternatives - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 10:56:57 PM
        
        re: Alternatives - Robert - 11/20/2003 11:05:33 PM
        
        re: Alternatives - SDG - 11/20/2003 11:24:57 PM
        
        re: Alternatives - Robert - 11/21/2003 12:57:45 AM
        
        re: Alternatives - FrankC - 11/21/2003 3:19:41 AM
        
        Continued - Robert - 11/21/2003 3:51:15 PM
        
        the star chamber - Greg - 11/22/2003 2:58:34 AM
        
        Perceptions - FrankC - 11/21/2003 8:47:15 PM
        
        re: Perceptions - Robert - 11/21/2003 9:30:54 PM
        
        no, no, no, - FrankC - 11/22/2003 12:14:18 AM
        
        re: no, no, no, - Robert - 11/22/2003 2:32:54 AM
        
        Imminent threat and levels of proof - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 5:29:44 PM
        
        "Nothing" - Robert - 11/21/2003 5:59:57 PM
        
        How many Americans are you willing to sacrifice for your inability to make tough decisions? (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/23/2003 4:39:15 PM
        
        Morality - Robert - 11/23/2003 6:52:42 PM
        
        Then answer the question: how many? how much destruction? - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 2:30:19 AM
        
        Back atcha, Ed - Mary Anne - 11/24/2003 2:01:28 PM
        
        While you do make a good point - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 4:06:15 AM
        
        An aside on your trip - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:01:52 AM
        
        Thanks - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 1:33:52 PM
        
        re: Back atcha - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:33:22 PM
        
        I didn't say that. - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 8:21:53 PM
        
        Check again, you are wrong - Dropping in - 11/24/2003 3:51:31 AM
        
        "I have answered this specifically on several occasions" Yeah, I nailed you on it too. - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:33:59 AM
        
        Your criticisms of this position slice both ways - D - 11/24/2003 5:05:10 AM
        
        re: Your criticisms of this position slice both ways - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:54:18 PM
        
        re: Your criticisms of this position slice both ways - Yeti Master - 11/24/2003 5:37:16 PM
        
        You've worn me out - Robert - 11/23/2003 9:36:05 PM
        
        ...so badly I actually got sick - Robert - 11/25/2003 1:22:55 AM
        
        I hate to argue with a sick man... - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2003 5:27:27 AM
        
        ...but you will anyway. - Robert - 11/25/2003 4:34:00 PM
        
        What's really funny... - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 12:19:56 AM
        
        Some things are black and white - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 12:13:43 AM
        
        re: Some things are black and white - Greg - 11/24/2003 1:58:57 AM
        
        I'm wearing YOU out? - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 12:07:17 AM
        
        re: I'm wearing YOU out? - Just Visiting - 11/24/2003 4:01:25 AM
        
        "Bush Doctrine" - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:17:23 AM
        
        You lost me at clinton - Yeti Master - 11/24/2003 5:30:56 AM
        
        Then let's stop calling it the "Bush Doctrine." - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:55:49 PM
        
        re: Then let's stop calling it the "Bush Doctrine." - Yeti Master - 11/24/2003 5:38:45 PM
        
        Argh! Being squashed against right side of screen! Must...stop...posting! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:05:09 PM
        
        Maybe to wind this up... - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:04:29 AM
        
        Willing to see eye to eye - Yeti Master - 11/24/2003 5:28:22 AM
        
        dyslexic Yetis! - Yeti Master - 11/24/2003 5:36:07 AM
        
        re: wearing out - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:56:41 AM
        
        re: "Nothing" - Tom Brosz - 11/22/2003 12:12:49 AM
        
        re: "Nothing" - Robert - 11/22/2003 1:59:49 AM
        
        the excluded middle - Greg - 11/22/2003 3:14:43 AM
        
        Not at all - ebnelson - 11/23/2003 4:42:39 PM
        
        You misunderstood - Tom Brosz - 11/22/2003 2:35:45 AM
        
        You misunderstood - Robert - 11/22/2003 5:24:28 PM
        
        re: definition - Tom Brosz - 11/22/2003 7:38:32 PM
        
        re: definition - Robert - 11/23/2003 3:29:30 AM
        
        To be continued... - Robert - 11/21/2003 3:40:05 AM
        
        So, it's okay if YOU ask the question, not me. That's cool. - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 11:20:39 PM
        
        Whoa there - Robert - 11/21/2003 12:47:28 AM
        
        re: Whoa there - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 1:08:12 AM
        
        re: Whoa there - Robert - 11/21/2003 2:08:34 AM
        
        U.N. - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 2:52:32 AM
        
        re: U.N. - Robert - 11/21/2003 3:35:58 AM
        
        Democracy - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 5:34:55 PM
        
        "The worst form of government...except for all the rest" - Robert - 11/21/2003 6:03:56 PM
        
        I think this is the idea behind expanding NATO - Scott Evil - 11/21/2003 1:44:22 AM
        
        Combination of approaches - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 10:54:26 PM
    - re: What would end terrorism? - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 5:47:12 PM
      - re: What would end terrorism? - Robert - 11/20/2003 10:11:42 PM
        
        re: What would end terrorism? - gbaikie - 11/21/2003 12:48:04 AM
        
        re: What would end terrorism? - Robert - 11/21/2003 3:20:04 AM
        
        "Once and for all." - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 10:47:12 PM
        
        re: "Once and for all." - Robert - 11/20/2003 10:56:42 PM
        
        Not true. - Tom Brosz - 11/20/2003 11:16:00 PM
        
        Did I misunderstand? - Robert - 11/21/2003 1:13:09 AM
        
        re: Did I misunderstand? - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 1:38:26 AM
        
        Good - Robert - 11/21/2003 2:29:23 AM
        
        re: Good - Tom Brosz - 11/21/2003 3:04:51 AM
        
        Good point! (n/t) - Robert - 11/21/2003 3:22:23 AM
- A CNN Article on this latest terror bombing - ebnelson - 11/20/2003 2:33:57 PM

Another comment on the Culture Wars - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:37:52 PM
- The left's oligarchy on power - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 4:30:00 AM
- Culture Wars: Attack of the Clones* - Fox - 11/24/2003 8:11:20 PM
  - The fact that you think there is no substance to this issue says a lot right there. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 8:26:23 PM
    - "It certainly does, Ollie." (n/t) - Fox - 11/24/2003 9:52:27 PM

Ted Rall endorses Howard Dean - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:21:30 AM
- If Rall is sincere - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 6:16:37 AM
  - the death knell of a campaign? - McFly - 11/24/2003 3:15:59 PM
    - Comparing Ted Rall to a bubba with the stars and bars on the back of his pickup truck - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 3:53:59 AM
    - Aahhh a Dean Lovefest! - Anne Leftleaner - 11/25/2003 12:38:03 AM

Soldiers killed in Mosul: and now, the Rest of the Story. - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 4:28:42 PM
- Low intenisty war with the focus on bluffing us into quitting - ebnelson - 11/25/2003 3:50:02 AM

The white crow...a regulation that enhances market forces - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:12:41 PM
- Cell phone companies are on their way to being regulated by the government. - Todd - 11/25/2003 1:20:05 AM
  - Sorry, read this one. - Todd - 11/25/2003 1:23:46 AM
- re: The white crow...a regulation that enhances market forces - SDG - 11/25/2003 1:17:25 AM

Who gets your vote for Miss World? - Greg - 11/24/2003 2:37:00 AM
- Miss Canada! - Todd - 11/24/2003 6:20:16 AM
- Check out your British comedy - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 4:54:28 AM
- Put a warning on that kind of thing next time Greg (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 11/24/2003 4:31:19 AM

A bit more on the Iraq-al Qaeda links - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:35:10 AM
- Good questions (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 6:19:12 AM

Low level fighting does not mean it is not brutal - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 6:05:28 AM

Soldier blogging from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2003 5:48:59 AM

Shevardnadze resigns - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 6:11:04 PM
- He did a lot of good for many years - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 4:58:35 AM
- Good Man. . . - Justin Kelly - 11/24/2003 4:27:45 AM
- re: Shevardnadze resigns - Raoul - 11/23/2003 8:03:32 PM
- Thank god - Donald - 11/23/2003 6:38:26 PM
  - That makes two successful recalls in one year! ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 7:01:14 PM
    - I think that... - Donald - 11/23/2003 7:22:02 PM
      - since Georgias' method came within a hairs width of armed revorlt, I'd have to disagree (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 11/24/2003 4:13:03 AM

Just in from a private source in Baghdad - ebnelson - 11/24/2003 2:27:45 AM

Three U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq - Donald - 11/23/2003 1:09:43 PM
- Beginning to worry there, weren't you? - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 6:22:58 PM
  - What truly worries me... - Donald - 11/23/2003 6:31:04 PM
    - Nope - ebnelson - 11/23/2003 9:11:42 PM
    - re: What truly worries me... - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 6:59:13 PM
      - re: What truly worries me... - Donald - 11/23/2003 7:19:59 PM
        
        And leaving Saddam in power would have mollified al Qaeda how? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 8:03:29 PM
- Meanwhile: Corruption charge deals fresh blow to Iraq handover - Donald - 11/23/2003 2:00:55 PM
  - And: Army Is Planning for 100,000 G.I.'s in Iraq Till 2006 - Donald - 11/23/2003 2:03:24 PM
    - Good news for Iraq - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2003 6:48:16 PM

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