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Ozone hole bigger than ever. - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 11:22:24 PM
- The Ozone Hole was discovered in about 1957 - ebnelson - 9/13/2003 3:07:48 PM
  - re: No, but Tech1 did 'touch' on that . . . - D. Spires - 9/13/2003 5:05:09 PM
- OZONE HOLES 101 - Class in session! (advanced class from the year 2190;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/13/2003 6:06:38 AM
  - The Scientific Method - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 9:31:13 PM
    - Damn Typos - Last 100 Years, Kind of Easy To Refute 10 Years (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 9:33:10 PM
- More Environmental Nonsense From Tom - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 3:12:38 AM
  - re: More Environmental Nonsense From Tom - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 4:33:10 AM
    - Do You Equate Barry With John Rummel or EP with David Morrison? - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 9:04:37 PM
    - re: More Environmental Nonsense From Tom - gbaikie - 9/13/2003 7:00:42 AM
- I don't understand - Fox - 9/13/2003 2:47:19 AM
  - re: Nobody will ever win, Fox . . . - D. Spires - 9/13/2003 3:35:17 PM
  - re: I don't understand - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 3:12:14 AM
    - re: I don't understand - LJ - 9/13/2003 4:17:00 AM
      - re: I don't understand - Greg - 9/13/2003 3:59:41 PM
        
        Ozone conspiracy - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 7:01:08 PM
        
        re: Ozone conspiracy - Greg - 9/14/2003 2:19:20 AM
        
        re: Ozone conspiracy - Johannes - 9/16/2003 2:34:26 AM
        
        re: Ozone conspiracy - Greg - 9/16/2003 9:11:09 AM
        
        I Thought Dupont Faught Eliminating It Or At Least For A Phase In - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 9:09:29 PM
        
        re: I Thought Dupont Faught Eliminating It Or At Least For A Phase In - Greg - 9/14/2003 5:25:26 AM
        
        here it is - Greg - 9/14/2003 5:33:53 AM
        
        Conspiracy Theorists Are Seldom Reliable Sources - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 8:31:22 PM
        
        re: Conspiracy Theorists Are Seldom Reliable Sources - Greg - 9/15/2003 1:36:13 AM
        
        So Was I - Mark Eby - 9/15/2003 1:41:40 AM
- re: Ozone hole bigger than ever. - gbaikie - 9/13/2003 1:35:29 AM
  - Costs "relatively low?" - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 2:52:33 AM
    - re: Costs "relatively low?" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/13/2003 6:47:39 AM
    - re: Costs "relatively low?" - gbaikie - 9/13/2003 6:42:53 AM
- re: I wonder . . . - D. Spires - 9/13/2003 1:26:51 AM

Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship - Jason - 9/15/2003 1:30:00 PM
- Top Ten Ways FOX News intimidated CNN - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 7:02:07 AM
- Is that from the Daily Onion? - ebnelson - 9/16/2003 1:19:45 AM
- And another example... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 5:03:49 PM
- Another nail in the mainstream media's coffin... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:29:01 PM
- How the media tanked on Iraq - p - 9/15/2003 4:21:07 PM
  - original article. - Pete - 9/15/2003 8:21:03 PM
  - Whoops...sorry for the duplication, Phil. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 5:11:40 PM
- the Damn Right wing media. - Anne Lefteleaner - 9/15/2003 1:49:37 PM

China & N. Korea - Pete - 9/15/2003 7:18:14 PM
- China is generally very incremental and cautious. - ebnelson - 9/16/2003 2:05:11 AM

WALTER CRONKITE: Latest Iraq casualty is our national prestige - Don - 9/14/2003 2:51:44 PM
- SDAI-Tech1 This is your mission... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2003 5:46:22 PM
  - Typical - Don - 9/14/2003 10:25:36 PM
    - I call em as I see them. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/15/2003 4:22:20 PM
- re: Just another nail . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 5:36:04 PM
  - Not another nail, but rather a screw loose......... - Publius - 9/15/2003 2:01:40 AM
    - Why war - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 6:06:32 AM
      - Nice to see you posting too Publius. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/15/2003 7:59:09 PM
  - You can't be serious - Don - 9/14/2003 6:27:04 PM
    - Serious as a heart attack - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 5:48:48 AM
      - No heart at all - Lindy - 9/15/2003 6:01:54 AM
        
        re: No, it is not just around the corner, Lindy . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 7:04:55 AM
        
        The Left doesn't want Saddam and his ilk to win... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 7:27:01 AM
    - Thanks Don - Lindy - 9/15/2003 5:46:05 AM
    - "Our completely muddled effort at rebuilding Iraq" - Larry J - 9/15/2003 1:57:08 AM
      - re: Peace will be had, Larry . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 3:03:03 AM
    - Your duty? - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 8:26:36 PM
    - re: You should think before you type, Don . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 8:01:57 PM
    - re: You can't be serious - RobVG - 9/14/2003 7:35:40 PM
      - Anyone who is convinced rebuilding Iraq is already a failure - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 8:35:08 PM
  - re: Really?. - Raoul - 9/14/2003 6:02:02 PM
    - re: After Vietnam . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 8:00:32 PM
      - re: Press - Raoul - 9/15/2003 6:36:01 PM
        
        re: Is it worth it . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/16/2003 12:51:50 AM
- Some Perspective - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 4:23:13 PM
  - Legally Hearsay - Don - 9/14/2003 6:10:47 PM
    - re: Legally Hearsay - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 8:10:50 PM
- So the pro-saddam critics are still supporting him. bfd. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 4:02:26 PM
  - What nonsense - Don - 9/14/2003 5:16:52 PM
    - Less nonesense than your posts - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 8:29:55 PM
- KINSLEY: 87 billion excuses, but no apologies - Don - 9/14/2003 3:07:25 PM
  - Better But - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 4:28:18 PM
- MUFSON: Show U.S. The Money - Don - 9/14/2003 3:04:00 PM
  - Bravo On Tax Cut Commentary - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 4:31:02 PM
- BARBER: Our War's Mistaken Premise - Don - 9/14/2003 3:00:53 PM
  - Some Good Points & Some Real Bad Ones - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 8:04:44 PM
- THOMAS: Declare victory and get out of Iraq - Don - 9/14/2003 2:57:23 PM
  - Great Example of Senility - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 4:11:12 PM
    - re: Great Example of Senility - Don - 9/14/2003 5:27:08 PM
      - Not So Fast Don - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 8:22:11 PM
- SANCHEZ: Bush makes Iraq the battleground - Don - 9/14/2003 2:55:19 PM

Lives saved in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 10:42:56 PM

Bush request scribbled in red ink to the tune of $525 billion - Don - 9/9/2003 1:10:41 AM
- Tom Bush's obvious solution - more tax cuts!!!! (n/t) - Buster - 9/9/2003 2:03:13 PM
  - Then Tom Bush has MY vote - p - 9/9/2003 5:53:37 PM
    - Glad you like spending your tax dollars on those useful interest payments and don't need social security in retirement (n/t) - Buster - 9/9/2003 6:54:00 PM
  - Obvious solution: a growing economy. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2003 4:40:03 PM
    - No - Robert - 9/9/2003 5:45:42 PM
      - re: Yes - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2003 8:11:01 PM
        
        No - Robert - 9/10/2003 2:34:05 AM
        
        Interesting link, thanks Robert - LJ - 9/10/2003 4:40:26 PM
        
        re: Interesting link, thanks Robert - Robert - 9/10/2003 5:32:51 PM
        
        re: Not parasites. - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 6:44:35 AM
        
        Sure wish there was some way to make money writing posts - LJ - 9/10/2003 4:45:18 PM
        
        Re: making money writing posts - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/13/2003 1:27:07 AM
        
        Our Constitution Enshrines Democracy Not Capitalism - Mark Eby - 9/9/2003 10:36:54 PM
        
        re: Our Constitution Enshrines Democracy Not Capitalism - Robert - 9/10/2003 3:04:06 AM
        
        re: Our Constitution - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 5:26:08 AM
        
        re: Our Constitution - Robert - 9/10/2003 4:38:27 PM
        
        Now, for the rest of your post - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 6:26:48 PM
        
        re: Now, for the rest of your post - Robert - 9/11/2003 10:31:37 PM
        
        Congress shall make no law... - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 12:37:45 AM
        
        re: Congress shall make no law... - Robert - 9/12/2003 1:22:43 AM
        
        re: Congress shall make no law... - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 5:15:35 AM
        
        that explains a lot - Buster - 9/11/2003 12:28:59 PM
        
        re: that explains a lot - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2003 5:14:06 PM
        
        Geez, this is like swimming through molasses... - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 6:11:49 PM
        
        It doesn't have to be - Robert - 9/11/2003 10:13:38 PM
        
        Bad vibes? - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 12:42:49 AM
        
        re: Bad vibes? - Robert - 9/12/2003 1:12:38 AM
        
        re: Bad vibes - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 5:27:48 AM
        
        3M Is Unusual - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 3:24:18 AM
        
        primitive dominance heirarchies - Robert - 9/13/2003 4:44:58 AM
        
        Well... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2003 6:54:47 AM
        
        This may actually be the core of the problems of humanity - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 7:36:44 AM
        
        Or it may be a source of strength - Robert - 9/13/2003 6:37:34 PM
        
        re: Or it may be a source of strength - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2003 12:01:26 AM
        
        re: Or it may be a source of strength - Robert - 9/14/2003 12:36:46 AM
        
        Wow, just imagine ... - Buster - 9/15/2003 8:16:32 PM
        
        re: This may actually be the core of the problems of humanity - gbaikie - 9/13/2003 1:08:48 PM
        
        Quite right - Robert - 9/13/2003 7:30:18 PM
        
        re: Quite right - gbaikie - 9/14/2003 2:29:06 AM
        
        re: Quite right - Robert - 9/14/2003 2:48:48 AM
        
        re: Quite right - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 11:52:06 PM
        
        re: Quite right - Robert - 9/14/2003 1:23:57 AM
        
        No, no -it's that similar traits and beliefs thing. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2003 7:11:02 AM
        
        No, it's an adjective thing - Robert - 9/14/2003 8:42:34 PM
        
        Not so bad vibes - Robert - 9/12/2003 5:23:08 PM
        
        Small businesses and jobs - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 7:08:20 PM
        
        re: Small businesses and jobs - Robert - 9/12/2003 9:10:31 PM
        
        Good point. - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2003 10:51:54 PM
        
        re: Good point. - Robert - 9/13/2003 2:46:12 AM
        
        You're welcome! - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 4:55:40 AM
        
        Aw shucks...right back atcha! (n/t) - Robert - 9/13/2003 5:05:04 AM
        
        re: Our Constitution Enshrines Individual Rights, not Democracy - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2003 11:35:32 PM
        
        the burden of proof - Greg - 9/10/2003 5:34:41 AM
        
        fell of the wagon? - Buster - 9/10/2003 2:37:27 PM
        
        don't be so sure - Greg - 9/10/2003 3:54:21 PM
        
        It appears you don't understand the power of compound interest - Buster - 9/11/2003 12:38:29 PM
        
        re: It appears you don't understand the power of compound interest - Greg - 9/11/2003 1:42:59 PM
        
        Forget it. Not my job to clean the Aegean Stables. - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 10:36:52 PM
        
        A Basic Business Principle You Seem To Have Missed - Mark Eby - 9/10/2003 3:21:13 AM
        
        re: A Basic Business Principle You Seem To Have Missed - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 4:29:31 AM
        
        Was your answer and oversight or a dodge? (n/t) - Buster - 9/10/2003 2:14:28 PM
        
        Specifics? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2003 10:39:05 PM
        
        you didn't address several points and gave tangential answers to the rest (n/t) - Buster - 9/11/2003 12:20:45 PM
    - In - out = accumulation: Think about it (n/t) - Buster - 9/9/2003 5:41:00 PM
- re: Bush request scribbled in red ink to the tune of $525 billion - Buck Galaxy - 9/9/2003 4:19:15 AM
  - Media coming down hard already - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2003 5:01:10 AM
- The Bush speech as it was originally drafted - Don - 9/9/2003 4:13:02 AM
  - Meanwhile: Spy agencies forsaw Iraq resistance - Don - 9/9/2003 4:16:30 AM

Shootings - Raoul - 9/15/2003 5:06:07 PM
- re: Shootings - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/15/2003 5:24:31 PM
- re: Shootings - p - 9/15/2003 5:15:32 PM

Indefinite delay on Kay weapons report - Don - 9/15/2003 2:10:58 PM
- Meanwhile: Iraqi scientists say N-programme ended long ago - Don - 9/15/2003 2:15:30 PM
  - Article raises a lot more questions than it answers. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 3:52:27 PM
    - The left knows because they have 20/400 hindsight and 20/20 poliotical bullshitzenn... - Scott Evil - 9/15/2003 4:30:11 PM
  - BUCHANAN: Wrong war in the wrong place - Don - 9/15/2003 2:26:13 PM
    - if the neo-left wants the neo-isolationist Buchanan on their side, they can have him... - Scott Evil - 9/15/2003 4:26:02 PM
      - Yeah, he's all yours. Why not quote Lyndon LaRouche while you're at it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:58:43 PM

Yo Robert, re: cannon fodder, etc. - Pete - 9/14/2003 8:46:13 AM
- FYI: linking to posts - Fox - 9/14/2003 11:56:51 PM
  - Slightly easier way - Robert - 9/15/2003 1:27:58 AM
    - re: Slightly easier way - Pete - 9/15/2003 1:54:17 AM
- Yo, Pete - Robert - 9/14/2003 8:13:29 PM
  - re: Yo, Pete - Pete - 9/15/2003 8:06:41 AM
    - DEBKAfile - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:15:17 PM
- Cannon fodder? - Lindy - 9/14/2003 3:26:50 PM

Why Paul Krugman is depressing - Greg - 9/15/2003 1:47:18 AM
- re: Why Paul Krugman is depressing - p - 9/15/2003 3:43:17 PM

Hurricane Isabel Predicted to Hit U.S. . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 11:35:50 PM
- re: Hurricane Isabel Predicted to Hit U.S. . . . - Fox - 9/15/2003 1:19:51 AM
  - Thanks to persistent links... - Fox - 9/15/2003 3:34:30 PM
  - Oh lovely. Right through Philadelphia (n/t) - Tony - 9/15/2003 2:00:02 PM

Good Economy. Bad Job Market. Huh . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 10:34:22 PM
- re: Huh . . . ? - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 5:03:08 AM
- The NYT's slide into disrepute continues unabated - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 11:03:35 PM
  - How Things Have Changed - Mark Eby - 9/14/2003 11:30:20 PM
    - These articles were written by the same people - ebnelson - 9/15/2003 3:33:42 AM
      - Stats Are Stats Man - Are You A Technical or A Political? (n/t) - Buster - 9/15/2003 11:46:38 AM
        
        Liars use stats (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2003 12:18:57 PM
        
        liars ignore stats - Buster - 9/15/2003 2:41:54 PM

Staggering deficit sets up battle over fewer dollars - Don - 9/15/2003 12:06:51 AM
- Oh, by the way... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:25:12 AM
- re: Staggering deficit - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:01:05 AM
  - Uh...Tom - Don - 9/15/2003 4:28:46 AM
    - re: Uh...Tom - Pete - 9/15/2003 4:56:13 AM
      - Beautifully correct... - FrankC - 9/15/2003 2:27:18 PM
      - The numbers - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 5:23:20 AM

"Blair didn't lie." Don must have missed this news. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 7:17:35 AM
- You apparently missed this from the article - Don - 9/15/2003 1:00:53 PM
- All the news that fits. - ebnelson - 9/15/2003 12:20:28 PM

Article on Iraq, and the rest of the nations over there - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 7:11:45 AM

RepublicansAgainstTheRecall.com - Don - 9/14/2003 2:41:51 PM
- You guys are scared out of your socks, aren't you? - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 7:07:41 AM
- Bulletted Item # 3 - Mary Anne - 9/14/2003 3:23:32 PM

Israelâ€™s Vice Prime Minister: Killing Arafat is Option . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 11:24:46 PM
- re: Killing Arafat is Option . . . - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2003 4:30:11 AM
  - re: Locking him up makes him tradeable . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 6:39:27 AM

Airplane Passengers Subdue Man on Flight . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 2:19:34 AM

Colombian Rebels Kidnap Eight Tourists . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 2:10:34 AM

WTO Trade Talks Collapse in Mexico . . . - D. Spires - 9/15/2003 2:00:14 AM

Straw 'begged Blair' not to join Iraq war - Greg - 9/14/2003 1:20:17 PM
- re: Straw 'begged Blair' not to join Iraq war - Pete - 9/15/2003 1:39:32 AM
- Bit Blair had the strength of character to do the right thing anyway. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 1:24:09 PM

Talks by U.N. Fail to Break Impasse on Iraq Self-Rule . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 11:05:49 PM

Might want to take a look - RNE - 9/14/2003 1:51:22 AM
- Bush Seeks to Expand Access to Private Data . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2003 10:51:49 PM
- The "Patriot Act" is dead, kaput, fini. Forget it. It will expire and will not be renewed. "Patriot 2" was stillborn. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2003 4:13:10 AM
  - re: The "Patriot Act" is dead, kaput, fini. Forget it. It will expire and will not be renewed. "Patriot 2" was stillborn. - RNE - 9/14/2003 4:25:53 AM
- re: Might want to take a look - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2003 3:28:26 AM
  - re: Might want to take a look - Robert - 9/14/2003 4:36:34 AM
    - Nervous - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2003 6:29:04 AM
      - re: Nervous about nothing - ebnelson - 9/14/2003 1:47:01 PM
- Did. Scared the pee-doodlins outta me. - Robert - 9/14/2003 3:02:30 AM
  - Enemy of the State - Greg - 9/14/2003 2:06:03 PM
  - More, but not much - Fox - 9/14/2003 3:53:14 AM
    - Eternal vigilance - Robert - 9/14/2003 4:38:47 AM
      - The Internet makes vigilance a lot easier, thank goodness. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2003 6:37:04 AM

CHENEY: $87 billion may not be enough - Don - 9/14/2003 10:16:49 PM

â€œWe have not tried to hide it under a bush,â€ Cheney said - Buck Galaxy - 9/14/2003 7:40:59 PM
- Tough questions - RobVG - 9/14/2003 8:13:12 PM

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