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Cuba, Cubans, and Cuban-Americans - Publius - 5/5/2008 6:56:13 PM
- re: Cuba, Cubans, and Cuban-Americans - ER - 5/5/2008 7:55:36 PM
  - re: Cuba, Cubans, and Cuban-Americans - Publius - 5/6/2008 1:24:27 AM
    - brutal y corrupto - ER - 5/6/2008 1:56:18 AM
      - re: brutal y corrupto - Publius - 5/6/2008 3:09:42 PM
        
        re: brutal y corrupto - ER - 5/6/2008 3:42:27 PM
        
        re: brutal y corrupto - Publius - 5/6/2008 4:24:26 PM
        
        It's not a pretty sight. - ER - 5/6/2008 5:07:43 PM
  - Very good analysis. - TB - 5/5/2008 8:45:09 PM

Global Warming: Crisis of the Future, and always will be? - TB - 5/3/2008 11:40:44 PM
- A little bit more... - TB - 5/3/2008 11:53:38 PM
  - What "debate"? The science is settled! (n/t) - Al Gore - 5/4/2008 10:55:41 AM
    - Don't you get it? It can't be settled now. - TB - 5/5/2008 5:34:46 AM
      - exactly - JEKing - 5/6/2008 4:40:29 AM
        
        re: exactly - TB - 5/6/2008 4:58:56 AM
      - You are totally immune to reality... - ARRELL - 5/5/2008 4:59:41 PM
        
        re: reality - TB - 5/5/2008 5:19:12 PM
    - Al Gore would never say that! Science is never settled (n/t) - Raoul - 5/4/2008 7:09:45 PM

Behind Military Analysts, the Pentagon's Hand - Jody - 4/29/2008 9:32:55 AM
- DoD suspends military "Media Analysts" Program - Jody - 5/6/2008 3:04:49 AM

Ken Livingstone finally gets the boot in London (n/t) - TB - 5/3/2008 4:37:02 AM
- Investors Business Daily editorial - TB - 5/3/2008 4:21:37 PM
  - re: Investors Business Daily editorial - is wrong - Doug Ellison - 5/4/2008 12:57:51 AM
    - Good to know. Thanks! (n/t) - TB - 5/4/2008 2:19:21 AM
      - It was worth it just to watch the heads exploding at the "Guardian." (n/t) - TB - 5/4/2008 8:33:42 PM

Congressional Perks Dept. - TB - 5/3/2008 5:42:55 AM
- Rangel's constituency needs to tell him to find a new job. - Eri - 5/3/2008 3:27:53 PM
  - The people who vote for Rangel are even more corrupt and inept than he is. - Lee - 5/4/2008 6:07:30 AM
- All of them Democrats. Quelle surprise. (n/t) - ER - 5/3/2008 12:01:07 PM
  - Other than Rangel, I didn't pay attention. - TB - 5/3/2008 4:02:22 PM
    - What really ticks me off about this - Eri - 5/3/2008 9:20:54 PM

"Over the horizon" military operations - TB - 5/3/2008 6:01:49 PM
- Uncertainty Principle and the modern Machiavelli - ER - 5/3/2008 6:51:57 PM
  - re: Uncertainty Principle and the modern Machiavelli - TB - 5/3/2008 9:11:25 PM
    - re: Uncertainty Principle and the modern Machiavelli - ER - 5/3/2008 9:15:50 PM
      - Principle - TB - 5/3/2008 9:44:35 PM

Some Damn Good Questions - Eri - 5/2/2008 10:13:57 PM
- Michelle Obama - Buck Galaxy - 5/3/2008 6:37:27 AM
  - Three words: Hillary. Michelle. Thunderdome! - TB - 5/3/2008 4:20:11 PM
  - The first thing I noted is how her e-mails begin - Eri - 5/3/2008 3:30:51 PM

Energy policies - TB - 4/30/2008 3:01:32 PM
- What's your take on child labor laws? - Bowser - 4/30/2008 3:51:10 PM
- Let it go TB, it's Chinatown... - ER - 4/30/2008 3:36:07 PM
  - Wish I could. - TB - 4/30/2008 4:04:41 PM
    - The trouble with democracy... - ER - 4/30/2008 4:58:25 PM
      - Intelligent Design... - TB - 4/30/2008 5:53:19 PM
        
        re: Intelligent Design... - ER - 4/30/2008 6:06:32 PM
        
        Interesting idea. - TB - 4/30/2008 6:40:26 PM
        
        Noblesse oblige - ER - 4/30/2008 7:16:53 PM
        
        A powerful lesson from the current situation. - Bowser - 5/1/2008 12:18:21 AM
        
        Not quite so re the Greeks - ER - 5/1/2008 1:06:58 PM
        
        The trick, of course, is "enlightened." - TB - 5/1/2008 3:07:43 AM
        
        Which is why I'd make a perfect Benevolent Dictator. - Lee - 5/1/2008 5:56:13 AM
        
        Umm...sure... - McFly - 5/2/2008 1:35:20 AM
        
        I'll save you a place up front at one of my rallies. =) (n/t) - Lee - 5/2/2008 3:17:52 AM
        
        That's generous - McFly - 5/2/2008 4:08:58 PM
        
        No problem. - Lee - 5/2/2008 11:26:39 PM
        
        You don't want to be in the front row... - TB - 5/2/2008 9:10:17 PM
        
        re: Noblesse oblige - TB - 4/30/2008 11:57:47 PM

YFZ Kids..Now young Boys ID'ed as having been abused. - carl - 4/30/2008 5:06:25 PM
- Smells bad. - Bowser - 4/30/2008 6:20:24 PM
  - re: Smells bad. - ER - 4/30/2008 8:21:57 PM
    - re: Smells bad. - Publius - 4/30/2008 11:24:36 PM
      - proof of abuse - SDG - 5/1/2008 2:46:35 AM
        
        It's mostly society's additude which is the problem. - Bowser - 5/1/2008 3:40:14 AM
        
        Deja Dan (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/2/2008 4:30:58 AM
        
        re: It's mostly society's additude which is the problem. - SDG - 5/1/2008 6:45:48 PM

Interesting poll numbers... - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2008 11:35:28 PM
- html fix - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2008 11:37:24 PM
  - Up and down we go - Eri - 5/2/2008 1:45:28 AM

Rev. Wright speaks at naacp - Buck Galaxy - 4/28/2008 5:50:09 AM
- A side note on this - TB - 4/30/2008 4:52:05 PM
- Wright Goes under the bus - James Brown - 4/29/2008 7:01:20 PM
- I could understand where he is coming from... - TAFKASE - 4/29/2008 4:08:50 AM
  - The news stations are all Rev Wright all the time, and almost no Obama - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 5:15:13 AM
    - It's possible - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 3:50:22 PM
      - Looks like he just sold his soul - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 8:57:15 PM
- What's curious to me - azstrummer - 4/28/2008 10:54:06 PM
  - My beef with Wright - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 1:12:21 AM
    - Obama is an intellegent and educated man. Why would you wonder? - alcaray - 4/29/2008 1:29:25 AM
      - Why would you wonder? - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 2:51:44 AM
        
        You really hate the guy, yeah? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/29/2008 5:02:43 AM
        
        I don't think he does - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 3:53:35 PM
        
        Obama or Wright? - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 5:17:38 AM
        
        You sound like you hate Obama. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/29/2008 8:03:48 AM
        
        I like Obama quite a bit - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 9:03:12 PM
        
        A question - azstrummer - 4/30/2008 4:24:37 PM
        
        Answer - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2008 7:25:15 AM
        
        Well, as much as I used to like Clinton - azstrummer - 5/1/2008 6:05:15 PM
        
        Revisionist history - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2008 11:11:49 PM
        
        A question - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/30/2008 9:22:11 PM
        
        You got one thing right - azstrummer - 5/1/2008 6:07:17 PM
- re: Rev. Wright speaks at naacp - James Brown - 4/28/2008 2:09:38 PM

Obama the pol sells his soul - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 9:01:04 PM
- Crows coming home to roost? (n/t) - Lee - 4/30/2008 2:27:44 AM
- Don't follow you. How is it "selling his soul"? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/30/2008 12:00:35 AM
  - In all fairness to Obama - Buck Galaxy - 4/30/2008 1:19:13 AM
  - Selling his soul - Buck Galaxy - 4/30/2008 12:20:55 AM
    - Had Wright - azstrummer - 4/30/2008 4:09:06 PM
    - I don't get why either one of you would call it that. - alcaray - 4/30/2008 1:13:04 AM
- That entire thing is meaningless. - Bowser - 4/29/2008 10:16:01 PM
  - Yeah it's all a Hillary plot. - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 11:44:53 PM
- You mean Obama acted like any shrewd politician, regardless of the amount of melanin amounts in the skin?.... I'm amazed [being sardonic]!!! (n/t) - Jacob - 4/29/2008 9:24:00 PM
  - Not sure how "shrewd" (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 9:51:38 PM
- Welcome to 2008 - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/29/2008 9:20:04 PM
- What's kind of funny... - TB - 4/29/2008 9:13:40 PM
- Actually - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 9:12:36 PM
  - Damn, Art. You scooped me on that! - ER - 4/29/2008 10:07:33 PM
    - You guys are delusional - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 10:12:13 PM
      - Maybe mistaken... - ER - 4/29/2008 11:23:49 PM
        
        Please tell me you're not serious. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/29/2008 11:35:54 PM
        
        Of course I'm serious. - ER - 4/30/2008 12:01:44 AM
        
        re: Of course I'm serious. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/30/2008 12:54:16 AM
        
        Pretty close. - ER - 4/30/2008 1:11:59 AM
        
        hahaha - Yeti - 4/30/2008 4:20:58 AM
        
        black propaganda - ER - 4/30/2008 12:44:09 PM
        
        After 10 years of reading his posts - Tony - 4/30/2008 2:41:00 PM
        
        You've been reading the TECHronomicon for TEN YEARS? - ER - 4/30/2008 5:46:08 PM
        
        On and off - Tony - 4/30/2008 8:37:48 PM
        
        That's a zone first...or maybe third or fourth. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/30/2008 9:40:18 PM
        
        Err no - Tony - 5/1/2008 4:18:24 PM
        
        No need to be humble. You'll get the pin anyway ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/1/2008 9:10:16 PM
        
        So if you make so much out of random spelling errors or typos - Yeti - 4/30/2008 11:00:51 PM
        
        Make so much? That was just more de riguer provocation! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/1/2008 9:12:03 PM
  - Wishful thinking - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 9:50:57 PM
    - I'm not saying - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 11:00:36 PM

Oil in our future - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 2:42:55 PM
- Why don't you try educating your cohorts, Art. - Lee - 4/29/2008 7:41:37 PM
  - Dont forget the waste also.... (n/t) - Tony - 4/30/2008 8:39:36 PM
    - Most of the waste can be reprocessed. - Lee - 4/30/2008 10:33:33 PM
      - Have you ever worked in the industry Lee? - azstrummer - 5/1/2008 5:55:57 PM
        
        Doesn't sound very hard to me. - Lee - 5/1/2008 6:33:55 PM
  - Tell the whole story Lee - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 8:46:06 PM
    - I read somewhere - Lee - 4/29/2008 9:30:41 PM
  - What liberals around here do you think need educating on that topic? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/29/2008 7:57:29 PM
    - I was talking about the ones on DK. - Lee - 4/29/2008 8:08:13 PM
      - I really don't have a lot in common with liberal nor conservative cranks. - alcaray - 4/29/2008 9:22:00 PM
- "without the finger pointing?" - Robert - 4/29/2008 4:34:31 PM
  - Go ahead. Ask the question. - TB - 4/29/2008 5:44:17 PM
    - Ethanol - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 9:06:54 PM
      - re: Ethanol - TB - 4/29/2008 9:40:26 PM
        
        don't give up on ethanol, - JEKing - 4/30/2008 9:02:09 PM
        
        Quite true. I should be clearer on that point. - TB - 5/1/2008 3:10:26 AM
        
        If I were ever elected Benevolent Dictator. - Lee - 5/1/2008 1:13:48 AM
        
        re: If I were ever elected Benevolent Dictator. - JEKing - 5/1/2008 2:59:29 AM
        
        I thought ADM was running that show. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/29/2008 11:14:15 PM
- re: Oil in our future - ER - 4/29/2008 3:40:07 PM
  - A few points: - TB - 4/29/2008 5:00:03 PM
    - A few points: and why we seem to disagree on all of them. - ER - 4/29/2008 5:36:19 PM
      - I don't know. Most of that post I agree with. - TB - 4/29/2008 6:22:17 PM
        
        No need to discuss it further. - ER - 4/29/2008 6:54:43 PM
        
        Depends on the businessman, I suppose. - TB - 4/29/2008 7:08:33 PM
        
        I didn't say they were unnecessary. - ER - 4/29/2008 7:18:23 PM
- On a grand scale it gives the venture some legitimacy. - Bowser - 4/29/2008 3:28:49 PM

Let's Nationalize Big Oil - Eri - 4/30/2008 1:07:12 AM
- You really are an idiot (n/t) - pb - 5/1/2008 9:20:27 AM
- The financial fallout would destroy US economy - nick hoffman - 4/30/2008 12:13:08 PM
- Profits aren't that big. - Lee - 4/30/2008 2:25:59 AM
  - duh huh? - Eri - 4/30/2008 2:29:31 AM
    - Lee's right, on percentages - TB - 4/30/2008 3:41:09 AM
      - Wait a second - Robert - 4/30/2008 5:26:19 AM
        
        The cost of producing a barrel of oil - nick hoffman - 4/30/2008 12:25:10 PM
        
        Qualitatively reasonable... - Robert - 4/30/2008 4:47:28 PM
        
        Maybe, but - RNE - 5/1/2008 5:28:45 PM
        
        Thanks - TB - 4/30/2008 2:10:02 PM
    - Percentage wise, they're still inline with other companies. - Lee - 4/30/2008 3:26:34 AM

A thought-provoking anti-Obama smear - Robert - 4/28/2008 3:14:14 PM
- What are the odds? - RobVG - 4/30/2008 5:23:50 AM
  - Uhh, Rob... - Robert - 4/30/2008 5:28:34 AM
    - Still... - TB - 4/30/2008 2:26:33 PM
      - Uhh, Tom... - Robert - 4/30/2008 3:47:45 PM
        
        The one in this thread? - TB - 4/30/2008 4:35:06 PM
        
        We're getting a little confused here - Robert - 4/30/2008 5:09:21 PM
        
        "desperate battle against hope and unity" - TB - 4/30/2008 6:12:59 PM
        
        Now that's ironic - Robert - 4/30/2008 6:45:51 PM
        
        re: ironic - TB - 5/1/2008 4:06:19 PM
        
        That's the Illinois Senate, not the Congress. - TB - 4/30/2008 6:20:32 PM
        
        re: We're getting a little confused here - TB - 4/30/2008 5:57:13 PM
        
        "cough up the address" - Robert - 4/30/2008 6:36:30 PM
        
        re: mainstream - TB - 5/1/2008 4:56:29 PM
      - have to agree - SDG - 4/30/2008 3:22:33 PM
- I know a lot of right wingers - SDG - 4/29/2008 5:51:45 AM
- re: A thought-provoking anti-Obama smear - gbaikie - 4/28/2008 7:58:42 PM
- Excellent point - TB - 4/28/2008 6:02:05 PM
  - Not addresses, just names. We all know how you hate the lack of attribution. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/29/2008 3:59:30 AM
    - C'mon, name names TB. You'll feel better. - Bowser - 4/29/2008 5:21:46 PM
      - Your desperation is showing. - TB - 4/29/2008 6:17:00 PM
  - Yeah! Who are these people? Need names. - Bowser - 4/28/2008 11:30:24 PM
  - Who are these people? - azstrummer - 4/28/2008 10:24:19 PM
    - Rev. Wright and the Obama clan. - Lee - 4/29/2008 12:12:46 AM
    - U Peeple! - ER - 4/28/2008 11:30:18 PM
      - Whoa. - TB - 4/29/2008 1:08:49 AM
        
        Whoa, no - ER - 4/29/2008 2:29:28 AM
- Republican Republican Republican. - RobVG - 4/28/2008 4:58:44 PM
  - But to return to the point... - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:45:53 PM
    - There is such a thing as the Political Spectrum. - RobVG - 4/28/2008 6:10:25 PM
      - Robert's riding hard on one of those "weak man" arguments. ;) - TB - 4/28/2008 7:02:05 PM
        
        And what was the topic again? - Robert - 4/28/2008 10:55:00 PM
        
        re: And what was the topic again? - TB - 4/29/2008 1:18:50 AM
    - For example - Robert - 4/28/2008 6:07:37 PM
      - Nice try. - TB - 4/28/2008 6:21:03 PM
        
        Straw man - Yeti - 4/28/2008 7:17:58 PM
        
        Possibly. - TB - 4/28/2008 10:34:20 PM
        
        re: You have no idea what can be written off taxes in other countries - Yeti - 4/30/2008 4:24:22 PM
        
        (Well, red herring actually.) (n/t) - Yeti - 4/28/2008 9:59:24 PM
  - define "official" - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:38:17 PM
  - What does *flyover people* mean? (n/t) - Jody - 4/28/2008 5:35:04 PM
    - It's how RightWing demagogues rile up people in the middle of America (n/t) - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:38:54 PM
      - Sorry, the people of middle America are already "riled up" - RobVG - 4/28/2008 6:00:37 PM
        
        Are they bitter? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 7:46:29 PM
        
        I have no idea what they taste like. (n/t) - RobVG - 4/29/2008 4:25:03 AM
        
        Well yeah - Robert - 4/28/2008 6:17:20 PM
- More conservative than America? - alcaray - 4/28/2008 4:42:53 PM
  - Cheney and Halliburton would certainly agree (n/t) - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:39:22 PM
  - TouchÃ©! - ER - 4/28/2008 5:15:56 PM
    - Where did you pull up "non-collectivist" for Arab states? (n/t) - TB - 4/28/2008 6:03:20 PM
      - Even the Taliban and OBL hate commies. - ER - 4/28/2008 8:54:52 PM
        
        Yeah, the Arab States are all about individual rights. (n/t) - TB - 4/28/2008 10:45:47 PM
        
        You've been saying that individual rights was something that liberals harped on. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 11:37:04 PM
        
        Yeah, but they're really strong on property rights. (n/t) - ER - 4/28/2008 10:57:29 PM
        
        What could be more free market than baksheesh? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 9:00:39 PM

May 68 nostalgia - Raoul - 4/30/2008 8:11:48 PM
- Amazing honesty. - TB - 4/30/2008 11:53:46 PM
  - In more ways than one. - ER - 5/1/2008 2:31:00 AM
    - You're all of five years older than me. (n/t) - TB - 5/1/2008 3:02:24 AM
      - When your just out of high school, that makes all the difference in the world. - ER - 5/1/2008 3:38:27 AM
  - McCain (n/t) - Bowser - 5/1/2008 12:20:18 AM
- "If you remember the '60s you weren't there." (n/t) - Bowser - 4/30/2008 8:41:17 PM

"Mission Accomplished" - Algorithms - 5/1/2008 2:07:00 AM
- Meanwhile: Baghdad clashes leave 400 dead - Algorithms - 5/1/2008 2:17:53 AM

Out of touch - "McCain: Americans most willing to sacrifice" - Bowser - 4/30/2008 8:39:28 PM

"Clinton goes negative in new ad" - Buck Galaxy - 4/30/2008 12:30:05 AM
- Let the market do its job. - ER - 4/30/2008 1:10:10 PM
  - Agreed. - TB - 4/30/2008 2:22:19 PM
    - BTW, McCain also in favor of gas tax gimmick. (n/t) - TB - 4/30/2008 2:40:11 PM
      - Let's give 'em the benefit of a doubt... - ER - 4/30/2008 5:08:32 PM
        
        I doubt they're thinking about it to that depth. - TB - 4/30/2008 5:42:10 PM
        
        My problem with letting the government "get the hell out of the way"... - ER - 4/30/2008 6:19:30 PM
        
        Never said "all controls." - TB - 4/30/2008 6:49:33 PM
- Saying negative things about your opponent is indeed called "going negative". - alcaray - 4/30/2008 1:47:31 AM
  - Criticizing your opponent's policy positions isn't going negative (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 4/30/2008 1:51:06 AM
    - re: Criticizing your opponent's policy positions isn't going negative - alcaray - 4/30/2008 3:28:27 AM

Example of a biased study - "Mixed results for recruits with conduct issues" - Bowser - 4/30/2008 4:35:23 AM
- re: study - TB - 4/30/2008 4:57:56 AM
  - Read 'em as percentages. - Bowser - 4/30/2008 5:23:45 AM
    - Why? - TB - 4/30/2008 2:07:22 PM
      - Looking at the comparison with WWII. - Bowser - 4/30/2008 4:01:24 PM
      - Here's why. - Bowser - 4/30/2008 3:56:46 PM
        
        re: Here's why. - TB - 4/30/2008 4:28:13 PM

Raoul...don't celebrate just yet. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/30/2008 5:05:29 AM
- I'm not the celebrating kind anyway (n/t) - Raoul - 4/30/2008 1:00:41 PM

Howard Dean: "This is essentially pretty close to a tie here," - Buck Galaxy - 4/28/2008 4:39:16 AM
- re: Howard Dean: "This is essentially pretty close to a tie here," - JEKing - 4/29/2008 4:30:09 AM
  - It's a beautiful thing...like the perfect storm. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/30/2008 4:40:07 AM

Hillary leading in Indiana, closing the gap in NC - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2008 10:23:23 PM
- One word to watch Buck - azstrummer - 4/29/2008 11:03:32 PM
  - Actually the word to watch is Rev. Wright - Eri - 4/30/2008 1:12:01 AM

FactCheck.org on oil company tax breaks. - Bowser - 4/30/2008 12:05:14 AM

"Tariq Aziz due on trial in Iraq" - Bowser - 4/29/2008 4:22:53 AM

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