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Chinese to Buy Hummer Brand - carl - 6/2/2009 6:50:59 PM
- Not the same - dtb - 6/2/2009 7:15:00 PM
  - Same lines? - carl - 6/2/2009 7:40:38 PM
- Outsourcing! (n/t) - ER - 6/2/2009 6:54:19 PM

An amazing look back on history - azstrummer - 5/29/2009 1:43:07 PM
- Will to power is more than just an idea. - Lee - 5/29/2009 8:37:32 PM
  - But pride goeth before destruction, doth it not? (n/t) - ER - 6/2/2009 6:56:53 PM
- Amazing. What a difference color makes - Robert - 5/29/2009 4:38:03 PM
  - I have a hunch it came close. (n/t) - John 3-16 (aka Bowser) - 5/29/2009 10:42:41 PM
  - Well said Robert.... - Jody - 5/29/2009 6:28:54 PM
    - "It can't happen here" - Robert - 5/29/2009 7:10:13 PM
      - "Eternal vigilance." Just as long as you keep looking both ways. (n/t) - TB - 5/29/2009 11:51:26 PM
        
        heh (n/t) - Jody - 5/30/2009 2:39:29 AM
- Can you imagine living there during that time? - Jody - 5/29/2009 2:16:48 PM
  - VW's Kubelwagens, KODACHROME+PROPAGANDA - carl - 5/29/2009 2:42:31 PM

Pakistan forces fighting in Waziristan now - Buck Galaxy - 5/31/2009 5:22:50 AM
- Does the US owe these refugees anything? - Bowser - 6/1/2009 1:45:40 AM
  - Was the Red Cross "gravely concerned" when the Taliban was setting up shop in the area? - Lee - 6/1/2009 3:36:26 AM
    - Yeah, that's what I thought. - Lee - 6/2/2009 11:51:47 AM
    - re: Was the Red Cross "gravely concerned" when the Taliban was setting up shop in the area? - Hans - 6/1/2009 4:21:59 PM
      - And that's why it's important the aid follows the troops. (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 6/2/2009 3:32:02 AM
- I'm not sure I believe it either. - ER - 5/31/2009 12:57:05 PM
- You actually believe all that, don't you? - TB - 5/31/2009 6:04:25 AM

Richard Gage speaks out - Eric - 5/30/2009 10:37:46 PM
- Another BS artist appealing to the paranoids. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/1/2009 12:08:13 AM
- Thanks for that - Lindy - 5/31/2009 5:18:24 AM
- So those screaming conspiracy may not have been crazy after all. (n/t) - Eri - 5/31/2009 2:57:11 AM
- LOL - Lee - 5/31/2009 1:38:12 AM
  - Never fear the Truth - Eric - 5/31/2009 2:33:53 AM
    - We've heard this one before. We're way ahead of you. (n/t) - ER - 5/31/2009 2:55:13 AM
      - I haven't so clue me in, please. (n/t) - Eri - 5/31/2009 2:58:12 AM
        
        Edifice Wrecks - ER - 5/31/2009 3:17:08 AM
        
        Those plane attacks weren't faked - Eri - 5/31/2009 4:10:54 AM
        
        I don't think he said that thermite was found. - alcaray - 6/1/2009 5:22:41 AM
        
        re: Those plane attacks weren't faked - ER - 5/31/2009 11:37:17 AM
        
        Why not frame Saddam? - TB - 5/31/2009 8:21:29 PM
        
        Think. - TB - 5/31/2009 5:47:07 AM
        
        Did they settle on Bush as the culprit? - alcaray - 6/1/2009 5:25:09 AM

Gingrich and Limbaugh call Sotomayer "racist". - Bowser - 5/28/2009 2:16:56 AM
- She is. But so is 40 percent of the US electorate. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/1/2009 12:35:49 AM
- If Gingrich and Limbaugh oppose her, that is a good reason to vote FOR her. - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 5:13:10 PM
- Well if "La Raza" isn't a racist organization, I don't know what would be. - Lee - 5/28/2009 5:39:29 AM
- The GOP is playing the race card - Buck Galaxy - 5/28/2009 3:26:42 AM
  - Do you believe the ability to make proper legal judgments depends on one's race? - TB - 5/28/2009 4:03:34 AM
    - Do you really believe she does? - ER - 5/28/2009 10:26:58 AM
      - Can I bookmark that "one, off-the-cuff emotional remark" phrase? - TB - 5/28/2009 2:01:48 PM
    - It's about balance - Buck Galaxy - 5/28/2009 4:11:49 AM
      - What "background?" - TB - 5/28/2009 4:52:00 AM
        
        "Liberals like Sotomayor because she's liberal. They hate Thomas because he's conservative." - ER - 5/28/2009 10:29:54 AM
        
        True enough. - TB - 5/28/2009 1:59:44 PM
        
        I don't recall... - Buck Galaxy - 5/28/2009 6:18:59 AM
        
        She saved Major League Baseball in 1994 - Socrates II - 5/28/2009 1:14:46 PM

United Nations update - TB - 5/22/2009 8:03:33 PM
- Sounds Typical of UNESCO. What Is Different About Him? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/1/2009 12:28:49 AM
- A modest suggestion. Be it resolved: - Bowser - 5/23/2009 12:28:37 AM

DICK Cheney's lies - Buck Galaxy - 5/22/2009 5:16:04 AM
- Old News. So what? Cheney is out of office now. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/1/2009 12:03:55 AM
- re: DICK Cheney's lies - RobVG - 5/23/2009 5:28:22 AM
- I've got the perfect solution. - ER - 5/23/2009 3:36:13 AM
  - The solution the Democrats shot down in flames... - TB - 5/23/2009 7:01:05 PM
    - I would have supported Bishop's resolution. - ER - 5/24/2009 2:02:18 PM
      - "Obfuscation?" - TB - 5/24/2009 5:57:32 PM
        
        I can't say it any better than Buck Galaxy... - ER - 5/24/2009 7:24:31 PM
  - Good solution. And there's a flaw in the system. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 4:12:05 AM
    - McCain is no friend of Bush or Obama. - ER - 5/23/2009 12:43:45 PM
      - Better Red than dead? - Lindy - 5/23/2009 4:56:06 PM
- What POLITICIAN Tells the TRUTH?????? - carl - 5/22/2009 1:59:14 PM
  - Some are worse than others. An ideologue believes the end justifies the means. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/22/2009 4:52:05 PM
    - ALL Lies are based on Truth - carl - 5/22/2009 6:06:27 PM
- re: DICK Cheney's lies - ER - 5/22/2009 12:16:44 PM
  - erratum--typographical omission - ER - 5/22/2009 12:19:50 PM
    - Reminds Me of Spiro T Agnew - carl - 5/22/2009 6:07:50 PM
      - He wasn't a joke. - ER - 5/22/2009 6:41:21 PM

Liberal for Impeachment - "Ted Rall: It's increasingly evident that Obama should resign." - Bowser - 5/30/2009 9:56:23 PM
- Purest idiocy. Obama has not been in office long enough to tell much. - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 11:49:30 PM
  - If it makes you feel any better... - TB - 5/31/2009 11:54:28 PM
    - The Guy should be in a padded cell. - David F Mayer - 6/1/2009 12:00:43 AM

Russia Fears N Korea 2 go Nuke - carl - 5/28/2009 7:27:59 PM
- It is about time that the NK government got replaced before it kills more millions. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 11:56:36 PM
- One wonders if China might not aggressively intervene. - Eri - 5/29/2009 3:56:41 AM
  - What the Russians have to say. - Bowser - 5/29/2009 4:19:03 AM
    - A RARE Moment in History - carl - 5/29/2009 2:45:04 PM
      - "All of the Nuke Powers in the UN condemn South Koreas actions" SOUTH KOREA???????? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 11:57:57 PM
      - I don't know why Vhina wouldn't want Korean unification under SK leadership. - Lee - 5/29/2009 10:11:11 PM
        
        And put American troops on China's border. - Bowser - 5/29/2009 10:47:50 PM
        
        There wouldn't be any need for US troops id N. Korea went away. - Lee - 5/30/2009 6:07:45 AM
        
        China* (n/t) - Lee - 5/29/2009 10:13:16 PM
- Although the possibility always exists - azstrummer - 5/28/2009 11:35:57 PM
  - Maybe they just want more food and fuel - Socrates II - 5/29/2009 6:19:40 PM

"He didn't have to shoot my baby like that," Parker's mother, Cleta Jennings, - Bowser - 5/30/2009 6:49:51 PM
- One less thug. Hooray! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 11:54:42 PM
- When, if ever, is premeditated murder of a helpless victim warranted? (n/t) - Bowser - 5/31/2009 3:34:50 AM
  - re: When, if ever, is premeditated murder of a helpless victim warranted? - Jeanne - 5/31/2009 4:57:01 AM
    - The one sure thing is that it was premeditated. - Bowser - 5/31/2009 5:40:16 AM
      - re: The one sure thing is that it was premeditated. - Lindy - 5/31/2009 4:55:19 PM
        
        Be all that as it may: It was the premeditated homicide of a helpless victim. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/31/2009 6:39:11 PM
        
        re: Be all that as it may: It was the premeditated homicide of a helpless victim. - Lindy - 5/31/2009 8:59:01 PM
  - re: When, if ever, is premeditated murder of a helpless victim warranted? - Jeanne - 5/31/2009 4:56:57 AM
  - re: When, if ever, is premeditated murder of a helpless victim warranted? - Jeanne - 5/31/2009 4:56:53 AM
- Her "baby" didn't have to try robbing the man. - Lee - 5/30/2009 9:22:31 PM
- re: "He didn't have to shoot my baby like that," Parker's mother, Cleta Jennings, - ER - 5/30/2009 8:03:22 PM
  - reaction vs action - FrankC - 5/31/2009 3:22:24 AM
    - That's the point I was trying to make. - ER - 5/31/2009 3:37:57 AM
      - " I am inclined to give him the benefit of a doubt" - Lindy - 5/31/2009 5:22:12 PM
  - Football players - Bowser - 5/31/2009 12:06:27 AM
    - Trained reflexes - Eri - 5/31/2009 3:07:51 AM
      - re: Trained reflexes - Lindy - 5/31/2009 5:31:47 PM
      - Ah so, poetry in mushin, grasshopper. (n/t) - ER - 5/31/2009 3:23:51 AM
        
        Groan. LOL. (n/t) - Eri - 5/31/2009 4:12:26 AM
  - Adrenaline - TB - 5/30/2009 10:27:05 PM
    - Testosterone - ER - 5/30/2009 10:39:56 PM
      - Are you implying that "her baby" wasn't a dangerous punk? - Lee - 5/31/2009 1:48:58 AM
        
        Dangerous punk - ER - 5/31/2009 2:07:56 AM
        
        And I stand by them. - Lee - 5/31/2009 4:38:24 AM
  - What I keep thinking about... - Eri - 5/30/2009 8:47:45 PM

North Korea getting weird. - Bowser - 5/28/2009 12:43:16 AM
- "getting weird." It has been weird since 1945. - David F Mayer - 5/31/2009 5:18:14 PM
- GAS UP the ABL - carl - 5/28/2009 7:20:15 PM
  - re: GAS UP the ABL - Marcia - 5/29/2009 3:39:11 AM

IPCC Reviewer: climate change predominantly, if not entirely, natural - S - 5/26/2009 12:56:45 AM
- Dr. Pesier implements his plan to combat solar minima - E.P. - 5/27/2009 9:49:22 PM
  - Link for Dr. Pesier's plan? - S - 5/28/2009 3:00:39 PM
    - Yes - E.P. - 5/30/2009 8:37:53 PM

A great idea - ER - 5/27/2009 12:01:38 AM
- An interesting aside - azstrummer - 5/29/2009 1:50:48 PM
  - Noticed THAT TOO - carl - 5/29/2009 2:47:42 PM
    - I worry constantly about our freeze/thaw cycle - azstrummer - 5/29/2009 5:34:01 PM
- And another... - S - 5/29/2009 3:42:38 AM
  - More seriously... - S - 5/29/2009 3:54:06 AM
    - Thanks S! - Jody - 5/29/2009 2:38:13 PM
- First, they came for my light bulbs, then they came for my roof, my black car and brunette wife. - Bowser - 5/27/2009 9:10:59 PM
  - They'll have to rip them from your cold, dead fingers.... - ER - 5/28/2009 12:30:29 AM
- re: A great idea - gbaikie - 5/27/2009 9:07:48 AM
  - Goofballs - carl - 5/28/2009 6:25:11 PM
- Neither one size nor one color fits all - S - 5/27/2009 5:12:52 AM
  - re: Neither one size nor one color fits all - ER - 5/27/2009 10:44:11 AM
- I love the idea. Brilliant! - Buck Galaxy - 5/27/2009 3:45:43 AM
- Is not - Jody - 5/27/2009 1:20:59 AM
  - Off the top of my head...it's a great picture. (n/t) - ER - 5/27/2009 2:28:42 AM
    - re: Off the top of my head...it's a great picture. - Don't forget our streets and roads. - Marcia - 5/27/2009 4:33:16 AM
      - I think we should dig up all the streets and install canals. - TB - 5/27/2009 5:26:31 AM

HUMMER a BUMMER for GM, Saturn Takes a DIVE - carl - 5/29/2009 4:02:05 PM

Here comes the VAT? - TB - 5/27/2009 7:43:53 PM
- There goes my 13 Bucks a Week from 'bam - carl - 5/28/2009 6:23:17 PM
- If that's done I'd like to propose one requirement. - Bowser - 5/28/2009 12:13:58 AM
- How does one pay for government without taxes? - Bowser - 5/27/2009 9:01:47 PM
  - Try spending less. - TB - 5/27/2009 9:32:03 PM

"In a white room, with black curtains, at the station..." - ER - 5/27/2009 9:29:20 PM
- Yeah, California's leading the way, all right. - TB - 5/27/2009 9:37:47 PM
  - Is it the cost TB?...that makes you reticent? (n/t) - Jody - 5/27/2009 11:31:30 PM
    - re: the cost - TB - 5/28/2009 12:54:09 AM
      - "I don't understand that kind of thinking" - Jody - 5/28/2009 3:22:24 AM
    - I don't see how it could be implemented.. - Jody - 5/28/2009 12:14:54 AM

Republicans are outraged as white, male representation on Supreme Court set to plunge below 67% - z - 5/26/2009 9:17:11 PM
- Did he have the same issues with Judge Thomas? - Socrates II - 5/27/2009 1:03:09 PM
- Anyone else see anything wrong with this article. - Lee - 5/27/2009 5:25:41 AM
  - Her race is only an issue - Buck Galaxy - 5/27/2009 1:43:56 PM
- Lecture given by Sotomayor - TB - 5/27/2009 1:28:10 AM
  - Good grief - white, male, anglo SC justices have been practicing 'racial and gender identity politics' for 200 years - z - 5/27/2009 2:30:28 PM
    - If I might gently point out... - TB - 5/27/2009 3:48:36 PM
      - It's appreciated but hardly sufficient to simply hope for the empathy of white, male judges - z - 5/27/2009 5:53:30 PM
        
        "Diversity" is a convenient cover story. - TB - 5/27/2009 7:15:52 PM
        
        The Democratic Party isn't the one that's driving out moderates these days! - z - 5/27/2009 9:47:14 PM
        
        They did that quite a while ago. - TB - 5/27/2009 10:44:40 PM
    - If there were truly no gender/race/age discrimination issues... - ER - 5/27/2009 3:38:23 PM
- re: Republicans are outraged as white, male representation on Supreme Court set to plunge below 67% - Eri - 5/26/2009 9:37:26 PM
  - So what does she sound like? - Lee - 5/27/2009 2:41:45 AM
    - Generic Fox Street Bronx accent. - ER - 5/27/2009 3:34:26 PM

To preempt one argument, she does NOT have a high reversal rate - dtb - 5/27/2009 12:06:28 PM
- Another thing about reversal rates... - ER - 5/27/2009 12:27:58 PM
  - Good point. - TB - 5/27/2009 3:38:07 PM
  - So much for the sanctity of statistics. (n/t) - ER - 5/27/2009 12:29:50 PM
- Arrrghhh! Was supposed to be reply to Sotomayor thread below, sorry (n/t) - dtb - 5/27/2009 12:07:22 PM

4.7 Magnitude = 12 Kilotons. - Jefferson-Washington - 5/25/2009 11:53:02 PM
- The Hypocrisy! - Jack Herer - 5/26/2009 7:59:47 PM
  - Casino Royale - ER - 5/26/2009 11:11:44 PM
    - re: Casino Royale - Lindy - 5/27/2009 2:00:41 AM
- John Bolton, last Wednesday - TB - 5/26/2009 12:54:11 AM
  - First North Korea, next Iran. Oh, joy! - Jefferson-Washington - 5/26/2009 8:34:58 PM
  - Bolton is right, - ER - 5/26/2009 3:50:36 PM
    - The Corbomite Maneuver - ER - 5/26/2009 5:34:07 PM
    - North Korea has had nukes for a while now. - Bowser - 5/26/2009 4:58:54 PM
    - North Korea already sells weapons to rogue nations. - TB - 5/26/2009 4:18:24 PM
      - First shot in the teeth - dtb - 5/26/2009 4:37:15 PM
        
        Step One - TB - 5/26/2009 6:52:42 PM
        
        And the rest of the plan... - dtb - 5/26/2009 9:06:03 PM
        
        When you're doing something stupid, Step One is always to stop. - TB - 5/27/2009 1:29:20 AM
        
        Wow. It is obvious the North Koreans are not lunatics. - Bowser - 5/26/2009 7:53:24 PM
        
        All it would take is miscalculation, like August, 1914. (n/t) - Jefferson-Washington - 5/26/2009 8:39:29 PM
    - Since Kim apparently had a debilitating stroke... - Socrates II - 5/26/2009 3:56:30 PM
  - When does he say the world will end? (n/t) - Bowser - 5/26/2009 5:46:42 AM

WWII warriors offer us message - Buck Galaxy - 5/25/2009 5:28:07 PM

When these chickens come home to roost they'll be vultures. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 2:14:46 AM
- re: chickens come home to roost - TB - 5/23/2009 5:42:21 AM
  - Something happened in the background - ER - 5/23/2009 11:24:33 AM
    - The Taliban is very unpopular in AfPak - Buck Galaxy - 5/24/2009 12:41:31 AM
      - That's difficult to believe. - Bowser - 5/24/2009 5:22:48 AM
        
        re: That's difficult to believe. - TB - 5/24/2009 7:53:54 PM
        
        Pashtun vs Pakistani - dtb - 5/25/2009 2:04:19 PM
        
        Spot on analysis (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 5/25/2009 5:07:29 PM
        
        The Iraqis turned against Al Quaeda - azstrummer - 5/24/2009 9:49:57 PM
        
        "What do you think the main reason was for the Iraqis to turn against al Qaeda?" - Bowser - 5/24/2009 9:48:26 PM
        
        Strategy of arming former insurgents - Buck Galaxy - 5/25/2009 2:13:45 AM
        
        Wow we thought alike on this one. - azstrummer - 5/24/2009 9:51:28 PM
    - More like Calvinball? - TB - 5/23/2009 3:27:07 PM
      - The ultimate threat -- according to A.E. van Vogt. - ER - 5/23/2009 4:03:19 PM
        
        We'll see what happens - TB - 5/23/2009 4:15:55 PM
        
        It was either Nixon or Reagan - ER - 5/23/2009 4:55:39 PM
        
        "The Madman theory was a primary characteristic of the foreign policy conducted by U.S. President Richard Nixon." - Bowser - 5/23/2009 5:20:29 PM
        
        You only have control of your own actions and thoughts. - ER - 5/23/2009 5:40:43 PM
        
        I think it's like a losing bluff in poker. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 7:58:51 PM
        
        I think you're dead wrong on that one, Bowz. - ER - 5/23/2009 9:40:02 PM
        
        I haven't seen 'em do anything nuts yet. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 10:54:19 PM
        
        Addendum - ER - 5/23/2009 4:13:14 PM
      - What he said. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 3:40:36 PM
        
        The Brits owed us big time for the Falklands. - ER - 5/23/2009 4:06:55 PM

First major national poll on potential 2012 matchups - z - 5/25/2009 12:08:55 PM
- re: First major national poll on potential 2012 matchups - Bowser - 5/25/2009 3:27:41 PM
- Far out! The campaign has begun. - ER - 5/25/2009 2:34:51 PM
  - You can bet the Huckabee people are on the phones right now... - z - 5/25/2009 3:16:18 PM
  - Swell. - TB - 5/25/2009 2:56:51 PM

Powell interview on CBS - TB - 5/24/2009 8:05:10 PM
- "Split threatens to rupture Republican ranks." - Bowser - 5/24/2009 10:01:04 PM
  - re: "Split threatens to rupture Republican ranks." - ER - 5/25/2009 1:15:17 AM
    - Delightful, well-reasoned, provocative post. - Bowser - 5/25/2009 4:40:19 AM

Pelosi clams up - TB - 5/22/2009 5:06:20 PM
- Sorry I'm late, guys. - ER - 5/24/2009 2:37:59 PM
- It's about time - Buck Galaxy - 5/23/2009 8:34:39 PM
  - "It's a distraction" - TB - 5/23/2009 9:21:57 PM
- Careful what you wish for - azstrummer - 5/23/2009 3:37:34 PM
  - Background on the "briefings". - Bowser - 5/23/2009 5:00:34 PM
    - re: Background on the "briefings". - azstrummer - 5/24/2009 5:08:01 PM
      - I think the Rs are calling for an investigation knowing it won't happen. - Bowser - 5/24/2009 10:05:51 PM
      - "White House press announcement" - TB - 5/24/2009 7:21:36 PM
      - I wish the Dems were smart enough to think of that. - ER - 5/24/2009 5:44:41 PM
        
        Hmm, given the two responses - azstrummer - 5/24/2009 9:43:31 PM
  - re: Careful what you wish for - TB - 5/23/2009 4:04:36 PM
- re: Pelosi clams up - REB - 5/22/2009 6:47:36 PM
  - Personally... - Eri - 5/22/2009 9:26:44 PM
- Republican from Florida - Eri - 5/22/2009 5:34:40 PM
  - Read the story. - TB - 5/22/2009 5:49:42 PM
  - Ooops! Democrat. Found the story link. - Eri - 5/22/2009 5:41:23 PM
    - Here's a Republican - TB - 5/22/2009 6:00:14 PM
      - Hmm, such credibility here - azstrummer - 5/23/2009 3:40:48 PM

Corporate Crime Update - ER - 5/23/2009 4:11:45 AM
- Which is why I'm glad I'm at a community bank. - Lee - 5/23/2009 8:35:29 PM
  - I've heard the same about the local guys., - ER - 5/23/2009 9:15:58 PM
    - As long as my ATM card works anywhere, I'm happy. - Lee - 5/24/2009 1:23:02 AM
- re: Corporate Crime Update - Lindy - 5/23/2009 5:05:37 PM
- The simple hedge - azstrummer - 5/23/2009 3:43:45 PM
  - Budgeting - RobVG - 5/23/2009 6:48:07 PM
  - Yeah, I know. I'm a "preferred customer" too. - ER - 5/23/2009 4:43:05 PM
    - re: "preferred customer" - TB - 5/23/2009 6:24:24 PM
      - Anger and distrust in the private sector? Noooooo. - ER - 5/23/2009 7:11:08 PM
        
        "You have become the self-appointed representative and defender of what is victimizing us" - Lindy - 5/24/2009 4:13:37 AM
        
        re: crusades - TB - 5/23/2009 9:33:00 PM
        
        Jihads - ER - 5/23/2009 11:17:09 PM
        
        And yes, I HAVE been unjustly screwed by the IRS. - ER - 5/23/2009 7:17:26 PM
        
        My experience with the IRS went pretty well. - Bowser - 5/23/2009 8:17:47 PM
        
        I had a sort-of good IRS experience. - alcaray - 5/23/2009 11:42:48 PM
        
        You were lucky. - ER - 5/23/2009 11:34:44 PM
        
        I've seen 'em be screwy. - Bowser - 5/24/2009 12:20:19 AM
  - Well, I'm glad *you're* okay, you selfish person you. ;) (n/t) - TB - 5/23/2009 3:52:10 PM

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