Current Events

News and events, local to international. A place to discuss politics, policy and the state of the world. Discussions may be lively, even heated. Try to avoid being the poster who forces an entire thread to be moved to Flame. Moderators do keep track of such things.

If Michelle Obama isn't racist... what is she? - Jody - 6/14/2008 12:18:15 AM
- I hope she doesn't cost him the election. - Eri - 6/14/2008 12:31:06 AM

How to get out of Iraq - E.P. - 6/11/2008 9:42:00 PM
- re: How to get out of Iraq - James Brown - 6/13/2008 1:00:36 AM
- Here's one. - Lee - 6/11/2008 11:31:22 PM
  - Here's your chance to show your patriotism...... - Publius - 6/13/2008 12:05:42 AM
    - Or I could walk out naked and have everybody commit suicide. - TB - 6/13/2008 1:23:22 AM
      - WMD - ARRELL - 6/13/2008 3:50:38 AM
        
        There's always a silver lining to a large middle... - TB - 6/13/2008 4:41:24 AM
        
        I am not gonna touch that.... - ARRELL - 6/13/2008 4:49:04 AM
    - And don't forget to wear your American Flag lapel pin. - ER - 6/13/2008 1:09:26 AM
      - how about your hat? - Publius - 6/13/2008 5:23:56 PM
- If only you would run for president! (n/t) - alcaray - 6/11/2008 10:43:12 PM

If you hate Olbermann â€¦ - James Brown - 6/13/2008 12:15:16 AM
- Torpedo away! - ER - 6/13/2008 1:05:40 AM
  - McCain didn't do anything for his wife I wouldn't have done for mine. - ER - 6/13/2008 12:40:52 PM
  - re: What about his wifes drug problem - Jack Herer - 6/13/2008 12:17:49 PM
    - re:repaired link - Jack Herer - 6/13/2008 1:38:36 PM

Modular nuclear power - TB - 6/11/2008 5:06:48 AM
- Toshiba at the cutting edge - JEKing - 6/12/2008 4:59:49 PM
  - Toshiba - Now that's what I'm talken about... - James Brown - 6/13/2008 1:11:08 AM
- re: Modular nuclear power - JEKing - 6/12/2008 4:35:20 PM
- re: Modular nuclear power - JEKing - 6/11/2008 9:24:46 PM

My patience is wearing thin. - REB - 6/10/2008 3:03:02 PM
- Bush is too busy - Eri - 6/12/2008 2:40:36 AM
  - "He's having much too much fun playing with tanks and Humvees and moving soldiers around on a chess board. " - Lindy - 6/12/2008 4:38:13 PM
- Here's something you can DO to help - Lindy - 6/11/2008 9:36:51 PM
- It wouldn't hurt if Congress would help out. - REB - 6/11/2008 5:46:36 PM
  - House Subcommittee Rejects Plan to Open U.S. Waters to More Oil Exploration - REB - 6/11/2008 7:19:59 PM
  - Now, go back and look at your link. - TB - 6/11/2008 7:19:26 PM
- Late arrivals - Buck Galaxy - 6/11/2008 8:20:27 AM
- Right ON REB - j - 6/11/2008 1:26:52 AM
- Yeah. It's Bush and the Republicans that have held back oil supplies and nuclear power. - TB - 6/10/2008 5:04:08 PM
  - This administration has actively tried to cover up the problem, it certainly hasnt tried to deal with the issue! - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 7:16:26 PM
  - They had the presidency and both houses and the supreme court for a period of how long now? - alcaray - 6/10/2008 5:47:44 PM
    - Oh hell. I am arguing with you guys against Tom - REB - 6/10/2008 7:17:25 PM
      - "Did they screw with my mind ..." - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 10:48:50 PM
        
        I was just kidding around with alcaray in that post. - REB - 6/11/2008 1:56:59 PM
  - I am not saying that, Tom. - REB - 6/10/2008 5:24:45 PM
    - "Itâ€™s like heâ€™s tried and then gave up." - Lindy - 6/11/2008 1:09:07 AM
    - This is all pretty vague. - TB - 6/10/2008 11:35:18 PM
      - re: This is all pretty vague. - REB - 6/11/2008 2:25:50 PM
        
        re: This isn't just about radical environmentalists - TB - 6/11/2008 4:19:16 PM
        
        re: This isn't just about radical environmentalists - REB - 6/11/2008 5:11:08 PM
        
        Q. Why do radical environmentalist have so much power? - Tony - 6/11/2008 3:14:03 PM
        
        Anyone can file a lawsuit. - Lee - 6/11/2008 4:36:23 PM
        
        Nice try. - TB - 6/11/2008 4:35:59 PM
        
        re: Q. Why do radical environmentalist have so much power? - REB - 6/11/2008 3:54:05 PM
    - Oh...ah...you mean...like...uh...leadership? - ER - 6/10/2008 5:47:06 PM
      - re: Oh...ah...you mean...like...uh...leadership? - REB - 6/10/2008 8:55:53 PM
        
        Again - Right on. - James Brown - 6/11/2008 1:40:43 AM
- re: My patience is wearing thin. - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 4:36:25 PM
  - I'm actually getting a bit hopeful on this. - TB - 6/11/2008 4:55:20 AM
- I understand - SDG - 6/10/2008 4:16:49 PM

One more item on minimum wage - TB - 6/10/2008 6:26:06 AM
- The Reader's Digest school of economics. - Bowser - 6/10/2008 4:40:14 PM
  - "Some businesses shouldn't be in business." - Robert - 6/10/2008 5:10:58 PM
    - re: What and how much is a living wage... - SteveS - 6/11/2008 12:55:42 AM
      - re: What and how much is a living wage... - Robert - 6/11/2008 1:24:18 AM
        
        re: What and how much is a living wage... - SteveS - 6/11/2008 1:02:22 PM
        
        Curious....does Halliburton pay taxes to the US - Lindy - 6/12/2008 12:20:12 AM
        
        re: What and how much is a living wage... - Robert - 6/11/2008 2:50:10 PM
        
        "That amounts to rigging the game in favor of business. ".. - Lindy - 6/12/2008 12:23:43 AM
    - What a ... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 5:31:07 PM
      - ...crock - Robert - 6/10/2008 5:54:09 PM
        
        Right on Robert - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:22:53 PM
        
        re: ...crock - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 6:09:33 PM
        
        So, if I understand you correctly Tech1.... - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:25:10 PM
        
        Mexico is a capitalist country. - ER - 6/10/2008 6:26:09 PM
        
        You jumped aboard Robert's sinking ship? - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 6:38:11 PM
        
        I hate to say this - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:29:15 PM
        
        re: You jumped aboard Robert's sinking ship? - ER - 6/10/2008 6:47:03 PM
        
        "Glub Glub Glub.." Hey ER here's a life preserver! - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 7:18:27 PM
        
        Watch the newest/final twist in conservtive rhetoric: Declare Victory and Go Home (n/t) - Yeti - 6/11/2008 3:22:01 PM
        
        Hey! It worked in 'Nam! (Rimshot). (n/t) - ER - 6/11/2008 7:15:28 PM
        
        This needs to go to Flame - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:31:35 PM
    - "A business that can't afford to pay its employees a living wage is a failed business" - TB - 6/10/2008 5:27:39 PM
      - "Basic Economics" to you is Imperialism - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:36:28 PM
      - "Wealth of Nations"-thumpers - Robert - 6/10/2008 5:42:05 PM
        
        Ah. The squid ink. - TB - 6/10/2008 5:50:55 PM
        
        Gentlemen, gentlemen... - ER - 6/10/2008 6:37:50 PM
        
        wriggle and spin - Robert - 6/10/2008 6:06:22 PM
        
        Empty yet? (n/t) - TB - 6/10/2008 6:16:13 PM
        
        A little perspective - Robert - 6/11/2008 5:28:55 PM
        
        Better. - TB - 6/11/2008 6:06:41 PM
        
        E-Bay - TB - 6/11/2008 6:09:20 PM
        
        Watch the newest/final twist in conservtive rhetoric: Declare Victory and Go Home (n/t) - Yeti - 6/11/2008 3:22:49 PM
        
        Shouldn't that be under Robert's post below? (n/t) - TB - 6/11/2008 4:38:12 PM
        
        No, your high-proof bluster followed by a sarcastic 'empty net' reference is exactly what inspired me to make my post(s). - Yeti - 6/12/2008 12:21:38 AM
        
        I accept your gracious surrender (n/t) - Robert - 6/10/2008 7:49:29 PM
        
        Sqleerg? - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/11/2008 7:58:02 AM
        
        In my day.... - nick.hoffman - 6/11/2008 3:48:27 PM
        
        Watch the newest/final twist in conservtive rhetoric: Declare Victory and Go Home (n/t) - Yeti - 6/11/2008 3:23:25 PM
  - You don't LIKE numbers, do you? (n/t) - TB - 6/10/2008 5:05:51 PM
    - Numbers (humanity) without feeling - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:42:02 PM
      - An interesting thread. - TB - 6/10/2008 11:54:00 PM
        
        I checked my premises at the post button. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/11/2008 8:06:46 AM
- Talking dirty. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 8:51:49 AM
  - How would it help? - James Brown - 6/11/2008 1:52:22 AM
    - Honest question... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/11/2008 7:47:00 AM
      - Why am I not surprised.... - Lindy - 6/12/2008 12:42:03 AM
      - Have you listened to Generation Y lately? - nick.hoffman - 6/11/2008 3:56:41 PM
        
        How to spot an old fart - Yeti - 6/12/2008 4:02:50 AM
        
        Oh, and PS - Yeti - 6/12/2008 4:15:24 AM
        
        re: Have you listened to Generation Y lately? - REB - 6/11/2008 9:14:05 PM
  - Oh...and... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 4:41:11 PM
    - do you understand how DAMAGING deflation is? - nick.hoffman - 6/11/2008 4:09:23 PM
      - It's Soooo obvious you don't live in the US. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/12/2008 12:13:46 AM
  - The founders never intended to interfere in slavery, either. - ER - 6/10/2008 12:44:57 PM
  - "the entire teen work force" - Lindy - 6/10/2008 12:15:37 PM

I just don't trust these hybrid cars - they are dangerous - James Brown - 6/11/2008 9:32:17 PM
- Silly season - TB - 6/11/2008 11:13:02 PM
- I came across a cute song to the tune of "Surry with the Fringe on Top"... - Mary Anne - 6/11/2008 10:49:28 PM
  - (Sometimes I feel like a Surly with a Fringe on Top.) :-) - Bowser - 6/12/2008 2:42:25 AM
  - re: I came across a cute song to the tune of "Surry with the Fringe on Top"... - James Brown - 6/12/2008 12:05:35 AM
  - Quiet cars + alternate sounds - Laurie Street - 6/11/2008 11:29:15 PM
    - I suspect there will be legal limits... - TB - 6/12/2008 2:26:06 AM
- a turbo charged VW jetta diesel will get 58 miles to the gallon - E.P. - 6/11/2008 9:39:38 PM

Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment for GWB filed. - Bowser - 6/10/2008 8:43:56 PM
- More interesting than his anti space mind control bill... - TB - 6/11/2008 3:29:57 AM
- Articles of Impeachment for Clinton - Robert - 6/11/2008 1:09:10 AM
- The first two pages of ARTICLES for Impeachment - Lindy - 6/11/2008 1:00:16 AM
  - Aren't you full of piss and vinegar. - RobVG - 6/11/2008 5:09:11 AM
    - Ack - Lindy - 6/11/2008 4:47:08 PM
      - I wonder - Eri - 6/12/2008 2:38:00 AM

Shortage of hybrids in automobile market - TB - 6/11/2008 5:33:38 PM
- Toyota to make their own batteries - and a plug-in hybrid - Laurie Street - 6/11/2008 11:24:40 PM

MORE on this administration's attempts to suppress inconvenient climate truths - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 5:27:05 PM
- So what do you think we should do about it? - E.P. - 6/4/2008 9:52:42 PM
  - Oh god, you're back hijacking another thread with that BS - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 10:01:39 PM
    - Since you missed it - E.P. - 6/11/2008 9:11:38 PM
- Report summary - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 5:41:06 PM
  - Full 271 page report - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 5:42:43 PM
    - Key findings: What to expect for our nation from Anthropogenic Global Warming - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 6:24:13 PM
      - Without having to plow through the whole thing... - TB - 6/3/2008 8:33:19 PM
        
        "Plowing through" the first FEW pages gets the answer: - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 9:43:11 PM
        
        A bunch of lightweights. - ER - 6/10/2008 12:47:54 PM
        
        ?? (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 3:50:22 PM
        
        More on the Climate Change Science Program - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 10:09:25 PM
        
        And yes, it DOES say much the same thing as the IPCC - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 10:01:32 PM
        
        answer: authorship and auspices. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/3/2008 8:43:21 PM
        
        In this entire thread there is not one post disputing the findings.... - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 9:50:57 PM
        
        Don't want to disappoint you - E.P. - 6/4/2008 9:59:08 PM
        
        Back up your claims with recent data - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 10:05:42 PM
        
        re: Back up your claims with recent data - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 10:12:43 PM
        
        The IPCC reoprt does appear to be the scripture that their entire religion is based. - Lee - 6/3/2008 8:36:50 PM
        
        TRY to keep up... - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 10:02:58 PM
        
        The Senate is debating how best to destroy this country because of this nonsense as we speak. - Lee - 6/4/2008 12:15:14 AM
        
        I'm sorry, did you have anything of substance to contribute to this discussion? - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 4:08:52 PM
        
        Your opinion doesn't change what Lee said. - TB - 6/5/2008 1:39:46 AM
        
        That's my litmus test. - Lee - 6/5/2008 3:39:13 AM
        
        And yo saying that doesnt make it relavent to the subject of this thread... - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 1:56:12 AM
        
        Guess where the steel mills are going? - Lee - 6/4/2008 5:07:50 PM
        
        WHAT does that have to do with the question of whether Anthropogenic Global Warming is real or not? - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 5:40:01 PM
        
        I'm looking for specifics. - TB - 6/3/2008 8:43:01 PM
        
        Questioning authority is good, but at some point... - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 10:37:58 PM
        
        re: Questioning authority - TB - 6/3/2008 11:52:42 PM
        
        re: Questioning authority - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 1:52:07 AM
        
        The science has been settled: AGW is a reality, NOW what can be debated is what, if anything, to do about it. - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 1:28:23 AM
        
        re: The science has been settled: AGW is a reality, NOW what can be debated is what, if anything, to do about it. - TB - 6/4/2008 3:42:52 AM
        
        The ONLY finding you will accept is "Hey, it isnt happening" - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 5:12:47 AM
        
        The real issue - TB - 6/5/2008 3:39:04 AM
        
        "but I got one response to this post below"- And you want to know why? - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 5:22:26 AM
        
        Another possible reason why - TB - 6/5/2008 7:07:09 PM
        
        "You just don't want to go there".... Famous last words, TB... - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 9:01:28 PM
        
        Do I get an apology now? :) (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/9/2008 11:37:25 PM
        
        Hey, isn't a standing "O" enough? (n/t) - TB - 6/10/2008 12:01:26 AM
        
        Famous last words - TB - 6/5/2008 10:07:52 PM
        
        Yet another example of the leadership on this issue - TB - 6/5/2008 4:51:36 AM
        
        DO check out the link... - ARRELL - 6/3/2008 10:48:07 PM

OIL soars $10.75 a barrel to $138 (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/6/2008 7:37:03 PM
- BP "surprised" by oil price - nick.hoffman - 6/11/2008 4:30:45 PM
- unemployment up .5% (n/t) - alcaray - 6/6/2008 9:41:39 PM
  - Not allowing domestic drilling is hurting the economy. - Lee - 6/7/2008 3:35:31 AM
    - re: Not allowing domestic drilling is hurting the economy. - Lindy - 6/7/2008 4:48:24 PM
      - re: Not allowing domestic drilling is hurting the economy. - Marcia - 6/10/2008 8:46:59 PM
        
        re: Not allowing domestic drilling is hurting the economy. - Lindy - 6/10/2008 11:34:14 PM
      - And you believe in aliens. LOL - Lee - 6/7/2008 4:59:42 PM
        
        Lindy's got a point - McFly - 6/7/2008 9:30:38 PM
        
        The "flip a switch" myth. - TB - 6/7/2008 11:02:55 PM
        
        "We are dealing with a serious supply issue" - Lindy - 6/8/2008 1:04:35 AM
        
        Let me explain - nick hoffman - 6/8/2008 10:13:05 AM
        
        Damn straight. - podrock - 6/9/2008 2:55:29 AM
        
        A good example for the other thread where skills and wages are being discussed. - TB - 6/9/2008 5:53:56 AM
        
        re: A good example for the other thread where skills and wages are being discussed. - Lindy - 6/9/2008 1:49:06 PM
        
        Here's a good link - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 2:58:55 AM
        
        The problem, Lindy, - ER - 6/9/2008 3:34:00 PM
        
        re: supply issue - TB - 6/8/2008 1:15:34 AM
        
        re: supply issue - podrock - 6/9/2008 3:19:59 AM
        
        The "flip a switch" myth. - ER - 6/8/2008 12:36:37 AM
        
        Congressional voting records and environmental lawsuits are public record. - Lee - 6/8/2008 1:04:10 AM
        
        Corporate communications are not public records. - ER - 6/8/2008 1:20:52 AM
        
        Did you read what I wrote, or was that an auto-reply? - McFly - 6/8/2008 12:19:08 AM
        
        Thanks McFly (n/t) - Lindy - 6/7/2008 10:33:11 PM
        
        I don't believe in aliens you jackass - Lindy - 6/7/2008 7:44:13 PM
        
        Calm down, Lindy. - Lee - 6/8/2008 1:06:25 AM
    - Those are only small factors - nick hoffman - 6/7/2008 8:58:56 AM
      - "It can take 5-10 years to find new oil and bring it into production." - Lee - 6/7/2008 4:57:56 PM
- re: OIL soars $10.75 a barrel to $138. - By Summer's end... - Marcia - 6/6/2008 8:09:35 PM
  - re: OIL soars $10.75 a barrel to $138. - By Summer's end... - Marcia - 6/6/2008 8:47:42 PM
  - re: OIL soars $10.75 a barrel to $138. - By Summer's end... - Marcia - 6/6/2008 8:13:04 PM
    - The refinery saw is more of a 'BOO!' statistic than very meaningful - Yeti - 6/7/2008 5:05:24 AM
      - Building a refinery - TB - 6/7/2008 5:51:28 PM
        
        Well - Yeti - 6/7/2008 7:54:22 PM
        
        That's sounding pretty bitter. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/8/2008 6:07:21 AM
        
        "The minimum wage needs [to go down to] $2 an hour" - We could hire American citizens again. - 6/8/2008 3:21:27 PM
        
        Sure! - Mary Anne - 6/8/2008 8:36:30 PM
        
        Details on labor rules for kids - TB - 6/8/2008 9:57:42 PM
        
        And more on minimum wages and teen employment - TB - 6/9/2008 6:31:17 PM
        
        I've had teens in the family who are employed, and teens I know as well. - Mary Anne - 6/10/2008 12:21:06 PM
        
        "everybody's hungry except the one who owns the pizzeria." - TB - 6/10/2008 5:45:50 PM
        
        I don't think the other party is still on the line. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/9/2008 10:12:46 PM
        
        I was busy, knucklehead. - Mary Anne - 6/10/2008 11:50:53 AM
        
        I'm sorry. I just wanted to use the line. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 4:47:26 PM
        
        Thanks. :) - Mary Anne - 6/11/2008 1:21:48 AM
        
        re: I don't think the other party is still on the line. - Lindy - 6/10/2008 12:52:14 AM
        
        Paraphrased: "It's not the higher wages here, it's the cheap labor over there." Um...okay. (n/t) - TB - 6/10/2008 6:15:58 AM
        
        Exactly. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/8/2008 9:35:20 PM
      - The perfect storm - ER - 6/7/2008 4:01:17 PM
    - You jest, of course. - Eri - 6/6/2008 11:07:27 PM
      - re: You jest, of course. - I never "jest", I just say what I mean. - Marcia - 6/6/2008 11:23:30 PM
        
        I knew you meant what you said. - Eri - 6/7/2008 2:08:40 AM
        
        Bulldust - nick hoffman - 6/7/2008 8:50:12 AM

"A US (Bush) gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations." - Bowser - 6/10/2008 6:57:54 PM
- "And check the Halliburton advantage in a free market economy." - Lindy - 6/11/2008 1:01:42 AM

More on that Senate intelligence report - TB - 6/9/2008 7:44:02 PM
- Oh, I think I understand......sorta like the Warren Commission Report, right? - Publius - 6/9/2008 10:46:28 PM
  - re: Oh, I think I understand - TB - 6/9/2008 11:33:28 PM
- Gee, so you're saying "it depends on the definition of 'lie'"? - Robert - 6/9/2008 9:12:58 PM
  - Interesting... - TB - 6/9/2008 11:21:23 PM
    - "dumped"? "pro-Bush"? - Robert - 6/10/2008 1:40:37 AM
      - What's this "take no prisoners" bit? - Bowser - 6/10/2008 2:58:26 AM
        
        Stay the course! - Robert - 6/10/2008 4:53:52 PM
        
        Thank you Robert, very insightful (n/t) - Lindy - 6/10/2008 10:51:52 PM
- Due diligence, examining and presenting all evidence. - Bowser - 6/9/2008 8:58:29 PM

Venezuela update - TB - 6/9/2008 6:22:10 PM
- "'Baghdad-style' checkpoints in US capital." - Bowser - 6/9/2008 6:46:00 PM
  - Sorry, thought I was talking economics. - TB - 6/9/2008 7:35:11 PM
    - You were talking about how screwed up the country is. However, if you want to talk economics - - - - Bowser - 6/9/2008 8:47:55 PM
      - re: You were talking about how screwed up the country is. However, if you want to talk economics - - - - Marcia - 6/10/2008 7:50:31 PM
      - The main difficulty right now... - TB - 6/9/2008 11:59:29 PM
    - It's called 'Argument by non-sequiteur'... - ARRELL - 6/9/2008 8:16:29 PM

U.S. think tank: Pakistan officials help Taliban - Bowser - 6/10/2008 6:07:08 AM
- Nah, can't be....couldn't be..........c'mon! - Lindy - 6/10/2008 12:12:16 PM
  - Yep! But they don't have oil, do have nukes and are immune. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/10/2008 3:55:29 PM
    - re: Yep! But they don't have oil, do have nukes and are immune. - Lindy - 6/10/2008 4:39:47 PM

Obama Meet Willie - James Brown - 6/10/2008 1:59:02 AM
- Why wasn't Willie Horton a legitimate campaign issue? - Lee - 6/10/2008 2:12:48 AM
  - The furlough program that released him was signed into law by _republican_ Governor Francis Sargent in '72 - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 3:45:45 AM
    - Governor Francis Sargent didn't sign Willie's, now did he? (n/t) - Lee - 6/10/2008 4:01:50 AM
      - Amazing.... - ARRELL - 6/10/2008 6:29:27 AM
        
        re: Amazing.... - Lee - 6/10/2008 7:29:19 AM
  - I've heard that crap for 20 years from people on the Left. - Lee - 6/10/2008 2:26:12 AM
  - re: Why wasn't Willie Horton a legitimate campaign issue? - James Brown - 6/10/2008 2:19:17 AM

Domestic oil update - TB - 6/10/2008 12:46:28 AM
- Guys like Salazar are bought off. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/10/2008 1:24:51 AM

The McCain military disability issue - TB - 6/8/2008 11:30:08 PM
- 100% tax-free disability AND a Senate salary (and pension)? - Bowser - 6/9/2008 4:30:49 AM
  - re: disability - TB - 6/9/2008 5:51:18 AM
    - Missed the point. - Bowser - 6/9/2008 5:59:01 PM

Like Japan and Germany - SteveS - 6/9/2008 1:35:58 PM

Zakaria: Obama would be good for U.S. image abroad - McFly - 6/8/2008 3:20:46 AM
- Wile E. Coyote or Mickey Mouse would be good for U.S. image abroad. :-) (n/t) - Bowser - 6/9/2008 4:32:32 AM
- re: being well-regarded by the rest of the world is a bad thing. - Raoul - 6/8/2008 9:27:54 AM
  - So, how's Chirac doing lately? - TB - 6/8/2008 7:56:09 PM
    - The US during GWB, after 2001 was unrecognizable, compared to the US until 2001 - Raoul - 6/8/2008 9:24:43 PM
    - Yeah Raoul, how many pointless wars has HE started?? - McFly - 6/8/2008 8:39:53 PM

Where's the implosion? - alcaray - 6/8/2008 11:14:35 PM

Overheard in passing - ER - 6/8/2008 2:48:41 PM
- Yeesh - Eri - 6/8/2008 10:57:38 PM
- Well, a horse is a horse, of course, of course, and no one can talk to a horse of course - Bowser - 6/8/2008 7:39:56 PM
  - Remember a few years back... - ER - 6/8/2008 9:42:27 PM
    - Snort!. (n/t) - Eri - 6/8/2008 10:58:27 PM

Bush misused Iraq intelligence: Senate report - Algorithms - 6/5/2008 10:51:38 PM
- BDS alive and well. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 11:34:16 PM
  - You need to change your meds - Robert - 6/6/2008 4:38:16 PM
    - Admit it... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/7/2008 4:44:43 AM
    - Stains, actually. - ER - 6/6/2008 10:02:33 PM
  - It's all they've got. - TB - 6/6/2008 12:07:29 AM
    - Just another round of "It's all old news. Why do they insist on bringing it up?" - Tony - 6/6/2008 5:52:03 PM
      - How do you go from "lies all lies" to "that's old news"... - alcaray - 6/6/2008 8:51:35 PM
        
        Brilliant, Alcaray! - ER - 6/7/2008 5:41:21 PM
        
        Don't bet on it. (n/t) - Yeti - 6/8/2008 4:34:34 PM
        
        IOKIYAAR!! ;) (n/t) - Tony - 6/6/2008 8:58:18 PM
    - They don't understand wealth generation. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/6/2008 6:28:16 AM
    - Actually, it seems to be all *you've* got. (n/t) - McFly - 6/6/2008 1:24:25 AM
    - Isn't that enough? - Algorithms - 6/6/2008 12:14:39 AM
      - Never say "never". - Mary Anne - 6/8/2008 6:34:47 PM
      - Once more unto the breach! - Lee - 6/6/2008 2:38:23 AM
      - Not for extremists. For rational folks, yes. Speaking of extremists - - - - Bowser - 6/6/2008 12:50:16 AM
      - Sure, if you have no brain. And Obama is counting on that. (n/t) - TB - 6/6/2008 12:48:37 AM

Vice President Clinton? - ER - 6/7/2008 12:18:46 AM
- She better have a damn good reason.. - James Brown - 6/7/2008 4:36:58 PM
- Governor Clinton? - Buck Galaxy - 6/7/2008 6:49:03 AM
  - Because I'm 60, and THAT"s too old. - ER - 6/7/2008 1:10:49 PM
- re: Vice President Clinton? - Eri - 6/7/2008 2:02:37 AM
  - re: Vice President Clinton? - ER - 6/7/2008 2:23:22 AM
    - I've had the same thoughts - Eri - 6/7/2008 5:51:28 AM
    - re: Vice President Clinton? - Marcia - 6/7/2008 4:34:10 AM
- re: Vice President Clinton? - Marcia - 6/7/2008 12:42:14 AM
  - I would hope he would pick someone other than Hillary - Lindy - 6/7/2008 2:21:51 AM
    - re: I would hope he would pick someone other than Hillary - Marcia - 6/7/2008 4:36:55 AM
      - Recognition - Lindy - 6/7/2008 4:46:29 PM

Now if the Iraqis don't want us there either, who does? - Bowser - 6/4/2008 5:41:20 PM
- Self determination isn't an Allah-given right - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 1:04:12 AM
  - If the Iraqis ask the Americans to leave; the Americans are morally obligated to leave...Your founding fathers fought a war with that priniciple [1775-1783]. (n/t) - Jacob - 6/5/2008 4:51:52 PM
    - The victors of wars write the laws. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 7:48:58 PM
      - re: The victors of wars write the laws. - Lindy - 6/7/2008 2:33:54 AM
  - "ask them what they want" as in the polls linked below? - alcaray - 6/5/2008 1:08:04 AM
    - You didn't get it...read my post again. ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 1:15:29 AM
      - I did get it. Read my post again. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/5/2008 1:26:53 AM
      - First the war was about WMD - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 1:21:15 AM
        
        The point... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 1:30:00 AM
        
        So, we invaded Iraq so that they could conduct Polls? - Yeti - 6/5/2008 6:15:06 AM
        
        Precisely. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2008 10:23:26 PM
        
        I think Iraqis had their own way of knowing which way the wind blew. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/5/2008 1:42:51 AM
        
        re: I think Iraqis had their own way of knowing which way the wind blew. - Marcia - 6/5/2008 2:34:02 AM
- re: Now if the Iraqis don't want us there either, who does? - Marcia - 6/4/2008 6:53:28 PM
  - re: Bottom, line, 'the Iraqis'. I'm sure the world awaits for their answer. (n/t) - Marcia - 6/4/2008 6:56:38 PM
    - Here's a snapshot of their answer at this time. - alcaray - 6/4/2008 11:12:31 PM
      - Your snapshot is four years old. (n/t) - TB - 6/4/2008 11:24:22 PM
        
        Well GOOOOLLLLLYYY!!! Alcaray thought he could put one over on ol TB!!!! - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 11:41:41 PM
        
        And that's a year old. - Lee - 6/5/2008 12:33:21 AM
        
        I posted one from march below... - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 12:40:37 AM
        
        No need to thank me, TB! - ARRELL - 6/4/2008 11:52:04 PM
        
        re: No need to thank me, TB! - Marcia - 6/5/2008 12:02:27 AM
        
        The "joke" was over when the first person died in this war... - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 12:08:24 AM
        
        Here is the most recent poll I can find - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 12:20:14 AM
        
        Hit enter too soon, results from 2008: - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 12:32:57 AM
        
        A better link - TB - 6/5/2008 1:29:39 AM
        
        The point is... - ARRELL - 6/5/2008 2:08:28 AM
        
        There's No Excuse For Promoting Old Poll Numbers As Current Opinion - Marsby - 6/5/2008 2:43:47 AM
        
        mea culpa. I thought there was... - alcaray - 6/5/2008 3:12:25 AM
        
        Title Should Have Been - Marsby - 6/6/2008 11:16:51 PM
        
        Let me be clear: I don't think it was deliberate on alcaray's part. - TB - 6/5/2008 3:01:19 AM
        
        Do you have a newer one? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/4/2008 11:37:12 PM

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