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Freddie and Fannie Fall on their FANNYS - carl - 7/14/2008 4:34:20 PM
- "crony capitalism" - TB - 7/14/2008 5:10:05 PM
  - Left's Crony Capitalism - James Brown - 7/18/2008 1:51:54 AM
  - Some good links? - Lindy - 7/15/2008 12:01:01 AM
  - Cook the Books - carl - 7/14/2008 6:54:13 PM

Steady progress in Iraq. - Lee - 7/17/2008 1:44:57 AM
- May not be the perception of Iraqis. - Bowser - 7/17/2008 11:02:33 PM

"U.S. air strike in Pakistan linked to database gap." - Bowser - 7/17/2008 4:16:38 AM
- Oops. "Pakistan disputes U.S. air strike due to database gap." - Bowser - 7/17/2008 3:47:19 PM

Dollar parity - nick hoffman - 7/17/2008 10:28:49 AM

So what do you do if your bank tanks? - ER - 7/15/2008 5:31:02 PM
- 50 cent on the Buck after $100K and - carl - 7/15/2008 7:47:27 PM
  - diversify - dtb - 7/16/2008 2:17:16 PM
  - $100K+? - ER - 7/15/2008 8:16:22 PM
    - Fidicia - McFly - 7/16/2008 1:30:24 AM
      - Yea, but the depositor/investor has to ask the question. - alcaray - 7/16/2008 2:23:48 AM
        
        Quite right on the first count - McFly - 7/16/2008 5:23:02 PM
        
        re: Quite right on the first count - alcaray - 7/16/2008 6:31:30 PM
        
        Nine years, huh? - McFly - 7/16/2008 8:09:21 PM
        
        re: Nine years, huh? - alcaray - 7/16/2008 8:10:13 PM
        
        and forgive the typos too - McFly - 7/16/2008 5:29:09 PM

"Bernanke: Markets under stress, outlook uncertain." Why are these guys so behind the reality? - Bowser - 7/16/2008 12:30:03 AM
- They listen to Rush - E.P. - 7/16/2008 5:57:04 PM

"Nation of Whiners" update - TB - 7/14/2008 4:45:14 AM
- Of course the economy is based on people's perceptions. - Mary Anne - 7/16/2008 1:51:12 AM
- Certainly describes Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter. - Bowser - 7/14/2008 3:34:38 PM
  - Noticed RELIGION More and MORE ranted - carl - 7/14/2008 8:01:03 PM
- The whining around here is mostly from the right. - ER - 7/14/2008 12:39:42 PM
  - Anybody got something relevant to the new information presented? (n/t) - TB - 7/14/2008 3:48:19 PM
    - Whine and roses. - ER - 7/14/2008 5:10:31 PM
      - Excellent point - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 5:12:51 PM
        
        More blither. (n/t) - TB - 7/14/2008 5:23:00 PM
        
        More bluster - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 7:42:06 PM
    - Not you, apparently... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 5:09:31 PM
      - "Who would YOU take more seriously?" - ER - 7/14/2008 5:32:51 PM
        
        Qualifications - TB - 7/14/2008 6:05:29 PM
        
        Yep. - ER - 7/14/2008 6:11:32 PM
        
        More seriously than WHO? - TB - 7/14/2008 5:48:44 PM
        
        "Over to you, fellas." - ER - 7/14/2008 6:06:49 PM
        
        You call this crap "feedback?" - TB - 7/14/2008 6:16:53 PM
        
        Seriously, why do you bother? - Your No.1 Fan - 7/15/2008 3:15:18 AM
        
        I've tried to convince him for years now. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2008 5:00:52 AM
        
        The Revenge of the Whiners - ER - 7/14/2008 6:24:44 PM
      - You too, huh? - TB - 7/14/2008 5:21:24 PM
        
        "I don't know what you're using to sweep back posts here" - 8^) - 7/14/2008 8:44:41 PM
        
        "Well King, this case is closed." (n/t) - sargEant pReston of the Yukon - 7/14/2008 5:39:34 PM

As GM goes, so GOES the NATION...I hope Not!!!!! - carl - 7/15/2008 7:44:36 PM
- "Engine" Charlie Wilson - "What's good for GM is good for the US." - Bowser - 7/16/2008 1:44:11 AM
- They'll come back - Buck Galaxy - 7/15/2008 10:50:45 PM

Good News from Iraq. - Bowser - 7/14/2008 3:55:48 PM
- The really good news from Iraq - Bush and McCain are more and more isolated in their push for "endless war" in Iraq - z - 7/16/2008 12:32:27 AM
- I think the end of 2012 is a good target date for us to be out. - Lee - 7/15/2008 12:36:06 AM
- The information you're looking for is out there. - TB - 7/14/2008 5:06:03 PM

"I don't think the government ought to be involved in bailing out companies," Bush said. (While requesting a Freddie and Fannie bailout.) - Bowser - 7/15/2008 3:56:19 PM

Torture Revisited- What 5 years can do to us - ARRELL - 7/15/2008 3:08:20 AM
- re: Torture Revisited- What 5 years can do to us - Eric - 7/15/2008 9:39:34 AM

A run on banks by depositors left the California mortgage lender short on cash - Eric - 7/12/2008 1:41:54 AM
- FDIC insures depositers up to $100,000 - Lindy - 7/12/2008 3:22:03 PM
  - Above 100k, 50 cents on Dollar - carl - 7/14/2008 8:01:55 PM
    - For uninsured deposits? It is a lot better than nothing. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/15/2008 2:20:46 AM
  - 10,000 people had more than $100,000 - Eric - 7/14/2008 11:56:26 AM
  - "regulars" meaning regulators (n/t) - Lindy - 7/12/2008 3:23:40 PM
- Did you see the part about Chuck Schumer starting the run on the bank? - TB - 7/12/2008 4:38:02 AM
  - A bit more on Schumer's pooch-screwing... - TB - 7/12/2008 4:48:41 AM
    - re: A bit more on Schumer's pooch-screwing... - Eric - 7/12/2008 11:17:34 AM
      - Don't let depositors know their bank is insolvent??!! - Bowser - 7/12/2008 3:17:47 PM
        
        The right hates nothing more than those that point out that the emperor has no clothes.... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 5:10:44 PM
        
        The regulators think he's an idiot. They probably have a good take on it. (n/t) - TB - 7/12/2008 5:05:27 PM

And I thought it was the hedge funds that were next. - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:23:05 PM
- Update: Looks like the Fed is going to try to 'print' its way out of this crisis as well - Yeti - 7/14/2008 4:06:48 AM
  - Been doing that for years. - TB - 7/14/2008 5:13:47 AM
    - Which? - Yeti - 7/14/2008 3:35:06 PM
      - Was referring to the Fed "printing" its way out of financial issues. - TB - 7/14/2008 3:53:43 PM
        
        Your comments make no sense - Yeti - 7/14/2008 8:43:15 PM
        
        No, I suppose they don't. (n/t) - TB - 7/14/2008 11:09:27 PM
- Another commentary on this subject - TB - 7/12/2008 10:34:00 PM
- I vant to dlink yor blaaad. - ER - 7/11/2008 5:11:19 PM
- Mortgage subsidies - TB - 7/11/2008 3:40:19 PM
  - "Mortgage subsidies"? - Robert - 7/12/2008 5:39:19 PM
    - Wow! - ER - 7/12/2008 8:24:48 PM
      - re: Wow - TB - 7/12/2008 9:45:09 PM
        
        All I recall you saying about the subject a year ago was... - alcaray - 7/13/2008 6:39:05 PM
        
        Not quite a year ago.... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 9:09:45 PM
        
        And which of those numbers were incorrect? - TB - 7/13/2008 10:31:52 PM
        
        You consistently claimed the problem was fabricated... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 10:38:11 PM
        
        No. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:00:54 PM
        
        A bit more Fannie Mae history, as a sidebar. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:10:28 PM
        
        YES...and ANYONE able to read can see what you were doing and what you are trying to get away with now.... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:06:10 PM
        
        Have it your way. We're doomed. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:27:14 PM
        
        I looked, nothing I found was as asinine as THIS: - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 1:46:59 AM
        
        Didn't think you'd bother. - TB - 7/14/2008 3:24:31 AM
        
        FISA - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 4:35:53 AM
        
        re: FISA - TB - 7/14/2008 5:01:24 AM
        
        "What do you think?"- Did you even read my post? - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 5:23:50 AM
        
        But you're voting for him, aren't you? - TB - 7/14/2008 5:26:19 PM
        
        And what are our choices? - Yeti - 7/14/2008 9:40:39 PM
        
        Ahhhh- the good old days... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 2:06:54 AM
        
        re: Ahhhh- the good old days... - TB - 7/14/2008 3:33:34 AM
        
        Where did I say we were doomed? - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:33:15 PM
        
        "slid around??" - TB - 7/13/2008 11:40:12 PM
        
        8^) People can read the quotes from you for themselves and draw their own conclusions... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:45:38 PM
        
        PS- see the thread below (n/t) - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 12:16:57 AM
        
        Though I must admit dumbfounded admiration at your research skills. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/13/2008 9:54:20 PM
        
        ipsa scientia potestas est - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 10:06:49 PM
        
        re: Though I must admit dumbfounded admiration at your research skills. - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 9:57:44 PM
        
        Well I wasn't really trying to point the finger at Tom so much... - alcaray - 7/13/2008 9:53:18 PM
        
        re: Wow - ER - 7/13/2008 12:02:37 AM
        
        Actually, "collectivism" isn't the issue. - TB - 7/13/2008 5:26:42 AM
        
        Corporations are not private companies. - ER - 7/13/2008 12:26:49 PM
        
        If you notice Robert's "blame the victim" post below... - TB - 7/13/2008 5:34:38 AM
        
        I don't think its a silly concept at all. - ER - 7/13/2008 12:06:50 PM
        
        Same as it ever was - Robert - 7/13/2008 5:41:19 PM
        
        Then maybe you'll agree that... - Lee - 7/13/2008 7:07:27 PM
        
        You do know you're pretty much just underlining my point, right? (n/t) - TB - 7/13/2008 6:35:12 PM
        
        Reality check - TB - 7/13/2008 6:45:23 PM
        
        re: Reality check - ER - 7/13/2008 7:11:21 PM
        
        You know, that really wasn't the point. - TB - 7/13/2008 7:41:05 PM
        
        That's what we've been trying to tell you. (n/t) - ER - 7/13/2008 8:51:02 PM
        
        "Imagine the kind of world we'd be living in if Big Business and the wealthy elites had their way."- No need to imagine - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 5:54:15 PM
    - Worst of all possible worlds - TB - 7/12/2008 6:08:31 PM
      - blame the victim? - Robert - 7/12/2008 7:43:23 PM
        
        Blame - TB - 7/12/2008 8:22:24 PM
      - BTW... - TB - 7/12/2008 6:34:33 PM
  - I bought my house the old-fashioned way - Eri - 7/12/2008 3:30:47 AM
    - Same here. - TB - 7/12/2008 3:42:19 AM
      - re: Same here. - Eri - 7/13/2008 6:23:45 PM
  - "The Price of Fannie Mae" - TB - 7/11/2008 5:04:28 PM
    - Thanks TB for the link... - Jody - 7/12/2008 2:54:08 AM

Did anyone else see this stock market drop coming? - azstrummer - 8/10/2007 9:18:54 PM
- So down about 1000 points since it hit 14000. - azstrummer - 8/14/2007 9:15:13 PM
  - Some people are making money... - TAFKASE - 8/14/2007 9:45:56 PM
  - Still up over 2000 since this time last year. - TB - 8/14/2007 9:35:34 PM
    - re: Still up over 2000 since this time last year. - azstrummer - 8/15/2007 3:27:49 PM
      - Population - TB - 8/15/2007 6:31:49 PM
        
        Tom read please - azstrummer - 8/15/2007 8:10:47 PM
        
        I'll be willing to concede - azstrummer - 8/16/2007 2:36:19 PM
        
        "...completely overshadows all other national expenditures." Completely wrong. - TB - 8/16/2007 5:43:08 PM
        
        The words were "unholy amount" - Lindy - 8/17/2007 9:38:50 PM
        
        The actual annual cost of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is more like $100 billion. - TB - 8/17/2007 10:51:46 PM
        
        Whoa pal - azstrummer - 8/16/2007 7:13:02 PM
        
        re: Whoa pal - TB - 8/17/2007 2:05:49 AM
        
        Economic issues - TB - 8/15/2007 11:59:50 PM
        
        Wal-Martification of the economy - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/16/2007 4:12:42 AM
        
        Stop shopping there. - podrock - 8/16/2007 4:45:32 AM
        
        Very good, Grasshopper. (n/t) - Jody - 8/17/2007 5:44:57 AM
- Perspective - TB - 8/12/2007 6:21:31 AM
  - "Frankly, the "doom lust" is getting old. " - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 12:15:31 AM
    - You're looking even dumber on this thread than the above one. - TB - 7/14/2008 4:12:42 AM
      - :) You go right ahead and see if that dog will hunt! - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 4:41:13 AM
        
        Now who's "sliding?" - TB - 7/14/2008 5:18:08 AM
        
        A good exchange in March - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 6:06:39 AM
        
        Nope.... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 5:50:52 AM
  - Doom lust? - azstrummer - 8/12/2007 4:51:27 PM
- I have to laugh at all the panic selling - Un_Epi_De_Mais - 8/10/2007 11:50:16 PM
- And here's PANIC! From the Fed. - Bowser - 8/10/2007 11:17:38 PM
- Sure. Did you see the "Cramer" interview cited on HZ? - Bowser - 8/10/2007 11:07:56 PM
- Not in the timing, but... - Fox - 8/10/2007 11:07:38 PM
  - "Marketplace" on NPR - ER - 8/11/2007 4:16:46 AM
- A 5-10% correction could happen at any time. - TAFKASE - 8/10/2007 10:04:21 PM

Where all the energy is - TB - 7/12/2008 10:28:51 PM
- That is fascinating. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/14/2008 4:17:02 AM
  - We need to start building nuclear power plants. And being REAL nice to the Aussies! (n/t) - TB - 7/14/2008 5:19:51 AM
- A belated thank you - McFly - 7/14/2008 1:36:18 AM

FWIW Dept. US stock markets due to tank tomorrow. - Bowser - 1/21/2008 8:04:49 PM
- Update: Markets don't tank, Thompson does. (n/t) - Fox - 1/23/2008 12:11:40 AM
- What we need is a creative stimulis program... - TAFKASE - 1/22/2008 2:50:14 PM
- Oh well, I guess I'll need to work one more year until I can retire. - TAFKASE - 1/21/2008 10:47:01 PM
- We have lost it. - James Brown - 1/21/2008 10:30:06 PM
  - re: We have lost it. - TAFKASE - 1/21/2008 11:09:06 PM
    - P.S. - TAFKASE - 1/21/2008 11:37:03 PM
- If the DOW drops another 300 points... - TB - 1/21/2008 9:05:36 PM
  - Are you really under the impression that this is all media-driven? (n/t) - Tony - 1/23/2008 3:29:49 PM
    - He STILL is... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 1:08:26 AM
      - We seem to have a different idea of what "tomorrow" means. - TB - 7/14/2008 4:05:49 AM
  - So, that would be the surplus and 7 years growth shot to shit. - Bowser - 1/21/2008 10:56:51 PM
  - The jerks are making sure it happens! - Eri - 1/21/2008 9:39:09 PM
    - Get a grip. - TB - 1/22/2008 2:27:09 AM
      - My knuckles are white from gripping (n/t) - Eri - 1/22/2008 4:15:17 AM
        
        Should they be? - TB - 1/22/2008 4:34:25 AM
        
        I'm not moivng anything at the moment. - Eri - 1/23/2008 3:58:08 AM
        
        re: I'm not moivng anything at the moment. - TB - 1/23/2008 4:59:42 AM
        
        Good advice - azstrummer - 1/22/2008 3:38:31 PM
    - One reason I don't have a 401k. - Lee - 1/22/2008 12:29:26 AM
      - Not a good financial decision. - TAFKASE - 1/22/2008 1:25:20 AM
        
        I don't like to tie things to work. - Lee - 1/22/2008 1:51:43 AM

Obama on foreign policy - McFly - 7/14/2008 3:14:18 AM

Good article on exactly why John McCain is completely unfit to be Commander-in-Chief of the USA - z - 7/5/2008 4:40:19 PM
- Unbelievable. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 3:04:11 AM
  - The USA is doomed and about to overrun by barbarians?? - z - 7/7/2008 6:47:21 PM
    - Yep. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:20:51 PM
      - "freefall property values"? - ER - 7/7/2008 11:23:56 PM
        
        Laugh it up... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 9:54:32 PM
        
        You don't need to lecture me... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:23:56 AM
        
        Very aware. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:11:42 AM
        
        Oye Gringo... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:34:56 PM
        
        My, aren't we cheerful? - TB - 7/9/2008 4:24:09 AM
        
        You must live on another planet TB. - ER - 7/9/2008 1:37:36 PM
        
        Nope. Same one you do. - TB - 7/9/2008 5:18:46 PM
        
        Anyway, what do you plan to DO about it? - TB - 7/9/2008 8:09:07 PM
        
        I've already outlined my defensive measures in my earlier post. - ER - 7/9/2008 8:33:57 PM
        
        You should still be writing the books... - TB - 7/12/2008 12:32:00 AM
        
        re: "tells me I don't have any and I'm a silly gurly man because I think I do. " - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:24:47 AM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 6:02:43 AM
        
        re: Really. - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:55:54 PM
        
        re: Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 4:26:22 PM
        
        Chicken quibble clucks again - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:16:52 PM
        
        PS - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:27:14 PM
        
        Actually, more like 2006, not 2004 - TB - 7/11/2008 4:32:46 PM
        
        This is the link - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:21:06 PM
        
        Wow. TB found BigCharts! Wow! - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:18:34 PM
        
        BTW, success isn't about "defensive measures." It's about offense. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 9:48:55 PM
        
        "Changing drivers" - TB - 7/9/2008 9:47:06 PM
        
        re: "Changing drivers" - ER - 7/9/2008 11:21:48 PM
        
        Go for it. - TB - 7/10/2008 6:02:45 AM
        
        Economy bad? - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:13:47 PM
        
        And THAT'S what it's about, ER. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 5:19:58 PM
        
        Candide Camera - ER - 7/9/2008 6:07:22 PM
        
        re: Candide Camera - TB - 7/9/2008 7:16:33 PM
        
        re: And THAT'S what it's about, ER. - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:43:50 PM
        
        Half empty mode. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:26:07 AM
      - "Surely the progressive left can't wait.." - Lindy - 7/7/2008 10:43:54 PM
        
        I do hold Bush accountable... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:50:19 PM
        
        re: I do hold Bush accountable... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 9:42:04 PM
        
        Think... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 1:13:26 AM
        
        Well, if that one was 'rich', this is 'priceless' - Yeti - 7/14/2008 2:21:11 AM
        
        Now thats rich... - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:12:34 AM
  - re: Unbelievable. - Lindy - 7/7/2008 3:29:44 PM
- "The world still looks the same, and history ain't changed" - ER - 7/5/2008 7:53:14 PM
  - re: history ain't changed - TB - 7/7/2008 5:05:50 PM
    - The Right seems to justify supporting any awful dictatorship - z - 7/9/2008 3:38:50 AM
    - At least you're not re-writing history. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:05:25 PM
      - re: re-writing history. - TB - 7/8/2008 1:51:30 AM
        
        Lost history - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 3:49:35 AM
        
        No need to apologize. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:16:50 AM
        
        "Still waiting for the dominoes to fall" - TB - 7/8/2008 4:30:46 AM
        
        Huffy? - ER - 7/8/2008 12:42:19 PM
        
        Economics and ideology - TB - 7/8/2008 4:03:52 PM
        
        Xenophobia fatigue. - ER - 7/8/2008 5:18:52 PM
        
        re: Xenophobia fatigue. - TB - 7/8/2008 5:59:33 PM
        
        I'm tired already. (n/t) - ER - 7/8/2008 6:48:45 PM
    - Oh, and given our potential new "enlightened" foreign policy: so what ABOUT Tibet? - TB - 7/7/2008 5:14:56 PM
      - We can't afford to tick off the PRC. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:13:09 PM
  - The communist China - Raoul - 7/6/2008 8:17:00 AM
    - What about Tibet, Raoul? (n/t) - ER - 7/6/2008 9:26:26 AM
      - re: 2 distinctive views and - (anonymous) - 7/6/2008 11:02:57 AM
        
        Now, rarely have I seen - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:22:10 AM
        
        Athletes and trade - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:45:03 AM
        
        re: Athletes and trade - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:45:33 PM
        
        Athletes and domestic politics - ER - 7/7/2008 11:21:23 PM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/8/2008 2:48:50 AM
        
        I stand corrected. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:21:20 AM
        
        Raoul - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:38:46 AM
        
        The US, and many other countries simply have no lesson in human rights to give to China (n/t) - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:35:24 AM
        
        Bull-pucky - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:44:37 PM
        
        Oh oh... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:04:45 PM
        
        To criticize - Raoul - 7/7/2008 8:56:45 PM
        
        re: To criticize - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:25:59 AM
        
        I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - alcaray - 7/7/2008 4:57:37 PM
        
        re: I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:26:51 AM
        
        Flame-ON! (n/t) - nick hoffman - 7/7/2008 3:47:28 PM
        
        I disagree - Yeti - 7/7/2008 4:25:42 PM
        
        re: 2 distinctive views and - ER - 7/6/2008 12:18:29 PM
        
        Truman did not dispute the Chinese takeover. - Bowser - 7/6/2008 9:22:56 PM
- Superb article. The analysis is right on. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/5/2008 6:32:23 PM

How to tell there's an election in the offing. - Bowser - 7/14/2008 1:48:24 AM

I believe we can give up the idea America stands for "free enterprise", "capitalism". Except for the little guy. - Bowser - 7/14/2008 1:40:59 AM

Cynthia McKinney running for President for the Green Party - TB - 7/13/2008 3:28:29 PM
- The fact that people like her are even in government is a sign of how bad off our society is. - Lee - 7/13/2008 5:09:47 PM
  - "Let a hundred flowers bloom." (n/t) - Chairman Mao - 7/13/2008 9:00:33 PM

Quick roundup on microbial biofuels - TB - 7/13/2008 7:39:05 PM

If the Bush Administration takes over Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. - Bowser - 7/12/2008 3:54:17 AM
- Hate to break this to you, but the government has been in the mortgage business since FDR. (n/t) - TB - 7/12/2008 4:33:17 AM
  - And got out in 1968 - Robert - 7/12/2008 5:47:13 PM
    - re: And got out in 1968 - TB - 7/12/2008 6:36:50 PM

Iran's missile bluster - TB - 7/10/2008 5:11:04 PM
- A few more Iranian "recycled" news photos - TB - 7/12/2008 3:15:04 AM
- More information coming from the NYT - TB - 7/12/2008 12:28:29 AM
  - New York Times link - TB - 7/12/2008 5:08:27 PM
- re: Iran's missile bluster - Hans - 7/11/2008 3:10:41 AM
- Why is it? - Bowser - 7/10/2008 7:28:19 PM
  - re: Why is it? - TB - 7/10/2008 11:57:28 PM
    - Tempering Israel's understandable anxiety - JEKing - 7/11/2008 2:06:33 AM
  - re: Because - SteveS - 7/10/2008 10:36:25 PM
    - If I thought that were the reality, I'd agree with you. - Bowser - 7/11/2008 2:24:32 AM
      - re: If I thought that were the reality, I'd agree with you. - Hans - 7/11/2008 3:03:49 AM
        
        How could Iran destroy Israel? - Bowser - 7/11/2008 4:06:52 AM
        
        re: How could Iran destroy Israel? - Hans - 7/11/2008 8:14:39 AM
        
        You made all of my points. - Bowser - 7/11/2008 4:29:12 PM
        
        re: You made all of my points. - Hans - 7/11/2008 5:59:12 PM
        
        re: You made all of my points. - Hans - 7/11/2008 6:04:31 PM

8k Gallons of GAS Goes PfffffT on New Jersey Turnpike - carl - 7/11/2008 5:07:23 PM
- The driver obviously forgot his BEANO. (n/t) - Eri - 7/12/2008 3:25:03 PM
- Bet the motorists were fuming at the traffic jam. (n/t) - Lee - 7/11/2008 11:07:55 PM
  - Yeah, they must have been really smoking... - ER - 7/11/2008 11:52:34 PM
    - (sigh) You amatuers and your fuelish puns... - ARRELL - 7/12/2008 12:06:49 AM
      - Are you trying to spark the flame of controversy, - ER - 7/12/2008 12:23:41 AM
        
        Obviously an attempt to be refined crude. (n/t) - podrock - 7/12/2008 1:34:12 AM
        
        Pouring oil on troubled waters! - Eri - 7/12/2008 3:24:03 PM
- Sounds like a volatile situation. (n/t) - ER - 7/11/2008 7:37:53 PM

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