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Spit on the floor and call the cat a bastard... When the temperature of a thread on one of the other discussion rooms becomes too high, a moderator may move it here so that it doesn’t interfere with more civil discussion. There are very few rules here- No racism, bigotry, threats or doxing. In the past we have found some of the most humorous and entertaining discussions have been on the Flame board. So step into the ring, or grab a bag of popcorn and enjoy the spectacle.

How about we stop calling the cat a bastard....... - Lindy - 12/16/2008 5:43:56 PM
- Who gets to decide "obnoxious?" (n/t) - TB - 12/16/2008 6:06:47 PM
  - Virtual etiquette - Lindy - 12/16/2008 10:42:08 PM
    - Check the Protocol. - Bowser - 12/17/2008 6:54:44 AM

Rice - "The US has always kept to it's international obligations (including torture)." - Bowser - 12/16/2008 3:55:58 AM
- the Artful Dodge - Lindy - 12/16/2008 1:31:22 PM

When you think you've seen it all, someone finds a way to make it worse. - Bowser - 12/14/2008 7:13:03 PM
- How many times can one person say goodbye? - Lee - 12/15/2008 2:12:16 AM
  - See "protocol" post below. (n/t) - TB - 12/15/2008 3:53:23 AM
    - That would be a valid point... - Lee - 12/15/2008 4:03:51 AM
- You know... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 9:49:01 PM
- Other peoples stuff - RobVG - 12/14/2008 8:52:11 PM
  - Yeah, well. - Eri - 12/15/2008 6:10:01 AM
- A small point of protocol - TB - 12/14/2008 8:50:27 PM
  - (Smile) Thank you, Miss Manners. ("Protocol" my aching ass!) - Bowser - 12/16/2008 3:12:30 AM
  - It's a good rule. (n/t) - Eri - 12/15/2008 6:03:56 AM

2081 - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 11:42:11 AM
- Eat your heart out Harlen Ellison - FrankC - 12/14/2008 8:33:52 PM
  - I don't think he meant it as prophetic. - Eri - 12/14/2008 11:30:37 PM
  - You're probably right. - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 10:55:09 PM
- Just for starters..I see incredible irony... - Jody - 12/14/2008 6:03:31 PM
  - re: Just for starters..I see incredible irony... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 11:10:21 PM
- re: 2081 - brian gyles - 12/14/2008 2:40:04 PM
  - This is one they made us all read in high school, - ER - 12/14/2008 4:25:06 PM
    - My intentions... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 10:33:20 PM
      - Does this mean I am now officially off the Randian looter list? (n/t) - ER - 12/14/2008 11:15:04 PM
        
        Were you on it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2008 11:23:32 PM
        
        re: Were you on it? - ER - 12/15/2008 12:02:22 AM
    - Hattenhaur seems to leap a bit too quickly to the defense - TB - 12/14/2008 9:47:22 PM
      - Did you know the Maharaja Mahesh Yogi had a physics Ph.D? - ER - 12/14/2008 10:29:45 PM
        
        Egalitarianism - TB - 12/14/2008 11:43:00 PM
        
        You won't get any argument from me there. - ER - 12/15/2008 12:05:45 AM
        
        The idea is a lot older than that program - TB - 12/15/2008 3:18:50 AM
    - To tie in with another thread out there, - Bowser - 12/14/2008 6:52:49 PM
    - Might read thouse links later Like widening my knowledge :) - brian gyles - 12/14/2008 4:51:56 PM

Another phrase headed for extinction in media political discourse... - TB - 12/11/2008 3:10:52 PM
- Scale, man, scale. Perspective. Think "Abramoff" and follow the links. - Bowser - 12/11/2008 3:41:34 PM
  - Scale? You seen the 2007 list? - TB - 12/12/2008 12:55:56 AM
    - Good grief. - Bowser - 12/13/2008 3:00:16 PM
      - I made my point. - TB - 12/13/2008 5:25:53 PM
        
        Sadly, I believe so. - Bowser - 12/13/2008 9:06:03 PM
        
        You're blithering again. - TB - 12/14/2008 4:08:48 AM
      - Well said - McFly - 12/13/2008 3:59:50 PM
- Not to worry, we'll be talking about The Great Republican Depression for a long time (n/t) - z - 12/11/2008 3:16:44 PM
  - Which one? - ER - 12/11/2008 6:48:28 PM
    - "I'm going to lean back, relax, light up, and listen to my Spirit 8-tracks. " - Lindy - 12/12/2008 12:17:59 AM
      - Down to stems and seeds, Lindy? :) (n/t) - ER - 12/12/2008 12:57:21 AM
        
        Don't be knocking stems and seeds - azstrummer - 12/12/2008 2:48:18 PM
        
        Ahhhhh, the good ol' days - RN (i think, the details are a bit f) E - 12/12/2008 3:19:25 PM
        
        Hmm, wonder why my memory isn't as good as it used to be..... (n/t) - azstrummer - 12/12/2008 4:34:56 PM
        
        Too much bong water? (n/t) - Eri - 12/13/2008 2:27:09 AM
    - Spirit 8 tracks - azstrummer - 12/11/2008 7:38:28 PM
      - Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus, actually. Their masterpiece. - ER - 12/11/2008 7:48:11 PM
        
        Short term memory loss - azstrummer - 12/11/2008 10:27:11 PM
        
        If it's been a while, try it again with a fresh ear. - ER - 12/12/2008 12:54:44 AM
  - History will prove that this mess we are in is the results of Democratic failed policies - SteveS - 12/11/2008 4:36:38 PM
    - I'm laughing too hard to answer. - Eri - 12/13/2008 2:29:47 AM
      - You have no answer (n/t) - SteveS - 12/14/2008 2:42:43 PM
    - Cost of Iraq War = 800 billion $$ - Cost of Bailout = 800 billion $$ - 12/11/2008 5:38:24 PM
      - Try again, the war didn't cause the finacial meltdown - SteveS - 12/11/2008 7:00:30 PM
  - re: The Great Republican Depression - TB - 12/11/2008 3:32:12 PM
    - When capitalism fails, and the State has to bail it out, socialism reigns. - Bowser - 12/11/2008 10:59:11 PM
      - Socialism is not the answer but the cause - SteveS - 12/12/2008 5:50:05 PM
        
        "Socialism wore down the safeguards...." - Lindy - 12/13/2008 8:47:08 AM
        
        re: "Socialism wore down the safeguards...." - SteveS - 12/14/2008 2:40:33 PM
        
        re: "Socialism wore down the safeguards...." - Lindy - 12/14/2008 5:10:21 PM
    - Democratic Congress - azstrummer - 12/11/2008 7:43:44 PM
      - re: Democratic Congress - TB - 12/12/2008 12:39:48 AM

Boscovich's theory - Roger Anderton - 12/13/2008 12:00:59 AM
- re: Boscovich's theory - Lindy - 12/14/2008 4:17:19 PM
  - re: Boscovich's theory - Roger - 12/14/2008 4:53:49 PM
- Interesting reason. - Bowser - 12/13/2008 3:15:26 PM
  - Agreed - McFly - 12/13/2008 3:51:47 PM
    - Wishful thinking and Einstein bashing - ER - 12/14/2008 3:19:05 PM
- [Moved to Flame] - Space Moderator Nick - 12/13/2008 5:20:01 AM
  - Nio bucket of water needed. - Eri - 12/13/2008 6:24:01 AM

Amurkans - Dumberer and Dumberest - dumb denier - 12/3/2008 3:02:44 AM
- I don't do bread lines..I am on the ATKINS lifestyle... - Jody - 12/4/2008 3:51:14 PM
  - Aye, that was a rarebit there, lass (n/t) - Welsh Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:31:00 AM
  - No cheese kines, but TSM has some cheesy lines... (n/t) - Laurie Street - 12/4/2008 4:07:42 PM
    - Id shay chat che Swiss can put a few holes in your cheesis. (n/t) - gET it? - 12/7/2008 6:59:40 AM
      - I never met Che Swiss, but I'm a big fan of Che Guerre-a cheesy revolutionary... (n/t) - Yet-I-Really-Shouldn't-Have - 12/9/2008 3:20:26 AM
        
        You know, the guy who fermented that revolution down south... (n/t) - Yeti-really-really-shoun't-have - 12/9/2008 3:21:40 AM
        
        How DAIRY you! (n/t) - TSM - 12/9/2008 8:27:51 AM
        
        Yer just milkin' this for every drop, arentcha? (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 6:03:39 PM
    - Sharp. Very Sharp. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/5/2008 5:51:08 PM
      - Gouda for you. (n/t) - ER - 12/6/2008 9:10:37 PM
        
        You like Gouda? I am rather fond, you? (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:30:05 AM
        
        Eh..mental block, can't think gouda reply. (n/t) - Tony - 12/9/2008 4:02:29 PM
        
        Yep, we're down to the rind on this one. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 6:05:05 PM
    - And you're Edam them up. (n/t) - TSM - 12/4/2008 9:47:10 PM
      - Eh, its the culture around here. We ferment pun wars. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/5/2008 5:50:18 PM
        
        Yup, It's a cottage industry for some. (n/t) - RobVG - 12/7/2008 12:24:13 AM
        
        A practice that should really be put out to Pasteur (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:42:33 AM
        
        Not bad. Bet you can't churn out another one. - RobVG - 12/11/2008 2:02:55 AM
        
        No whey (n/t) - TSM - 12/8/2008 2:31:15 AM
        
        Krafty (n/t) - RobVG - 12/8/2008 5:47:33 AM
        
        I don't know about Krafty... This whole exchange I find just curdles my stomach. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:25:18 AM
        
        So you Camembert it no longer? (n/t) - TSM - 12/9/2008 8:16:34 AM
        
        Admit it, yer just gunning for Head Cheese of this pun battle. No matter how gouda punner you are I'll bEdam if I'll let you smoke me. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 6:11:43 PM
        
        Queso I repeated a couple there, bet Head Cheese was a sweetbread. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 6:14:33 PM
        
        That was just abominable (n/t) - TSM - 12/10/2008 7:11:22 PM
        
        Which some find quite grating. (n/t) - TSM - 12/6/2008 11:10:09 AM
        
        Especially those politically parmesan cooments. (n/t) - ER - 12/6/2008 9:11:50 PM
        
        I can sure la-feta pun like that. (n/t) - et - 12/7/2008 7:00:43 AM
        
        and havEdam good laugh at that.... (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:26:45 AM
        
        None of you can prove-a-lone thing you've said here. (n/t) - ER - 12/8/2008 9:02:12 PM
        
        Well, that may be, but you gotta respect them for being mavericks- you know, not cut from the same mold... (n/t) - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:23:57 AM
        
        This is starting to smell, who cut the cheese? (n/t) - ER - 12/9/2008 6:30:18 PM
- The breadmakers won't be complaining. - The Silent Majority - 12/4/2008 12:53:36 PM
  - Eh, the only ones who are sitting on some dough these days are the upper crust... (n/t) - Yeti - 12/5/2008 5:51:59 PM
  - 'Cos they like to make dough like the rest of us (n/t) - The SIilent Majority - 12/4/2008 12:55:08 PM
    - Apart from those who like to loaf around ;-) (n/t) - TSM - 12/4/2008 12:56:09 PM
      - No matter how you slice it, At yeast you could have kept it to cheese. (n/t) - Yeti - 12/5/2008 5:53:43 PM
        
        I was on a roll (n/t) - TSM - 12/6/2008 11:07:41 AM
        
        re: I was on a roll... said the perverted baker (n/t) - ARRELL - 12/6/2008 7:33:12 PM
- Hold your breath and I'll pat my foot while we wait, meanwhile - FrankC (your worst nightmare) - 12/3/2008 8:23:02 PM
- Talk about meltdown... (n/t) - RobVG - 12/3/2008 3:29:59 AM
  - It's "Merkans". As in "My fellow Merkans". Lyndon Johnson. - Bowser - 12/3/2008 4:42:36 AM

Can't LET BIG THREE Go Under - carl - 12/6/2008 6:45:21 PM
- I'm Just Sayin', is all... - Yeti - 12/9/2008 3:11:18 AM
- re: Not with my tax dollars - SteveS - 12/7/2008 5:53:35 PM
  - Apples and oranges - azstrummer - 12/8/2008 3:31:01 PM
    - re: You made the point - SteveS - 12/9/2008 1:37:01 PM
  - Maybe they should stop making 50 different models. - Lee - 12/8/2008 3:09:30 AM
    - Pontiac a GO GO - carl - 12/8/2008 6:32:04 PM
  - Let's get Toyota caught up. - Bowser - 12/8/2008 2:41:20 AM
  - The Unions are willing to stop the being paid for doing nothing for fired or laid off workers. - Eri - 12/7/2008 11:44:21 PM
- The arguments for letting them fail are demonstrably bogus. There is one reason. - Bowser - 12/7/2008 3:33:20 AM
  - Well said - S - 12/7/2008 9:33:20 PM
    - Planned Banking BAILOUT During W's Final Days - carl - 12/8/2008 6:35:20 PM
      - re: Planned Banking BAILOUT During W's Final Days - Lindy - 12/8/2008 8:02:03 PM
        
        PARDON ME?????? - carl - 12/9/2008 7:29:43 PM
- How about letting ONE go? - nick hoffman - 12/7/2008 1:46:53 AM
- re: Can't LET BIG THREE Go Under. - Not all three...(specifically): - Marcia - 12/6/2008 8:08:13 PM
  - I can live with that... - Mary Anne - 12/7/2008 3:01:40 PM
    - Me too! I'm glad a drive a Ford. (n/t) - Eri - 12/7/2008 11:46:46 PM
      - Model T parts in Modern Times - carl - 12/8/2008 6:38:44 PM
        
        re: Model T parts in Modern Times. - Even today: - Marcia - 12/8/2008 9:33:13 PM
        
        re: Model T parts in Modern Times. - Even today: BMW - Marcia - 12/9/2008 4:03:41 AM
        
        But WHERE????? - carl - 12/9/2008 7:33:08 PM
    - re: Auto parts - SteveS - 12/7/2008 5:45:44 PM

Life is lived forward, and understood backward. - Bowser - 12/8/2008 6:45:59 PM
- "Triumphalism Amid the Wreckage" - an example. - Bowser - 12/8/2008 8:07:00 PM

Full Metal Christmas - RobVG - 12/4/2008 9:14:36 PM

A slam-dunk prediction now that Social Security hasn't been "privatized". - Bowser - 12/3/2008 4:53:54 PM
- re: A slam-dunk prediction now that Social Security hasn't been "privatized". - Lindy - 12/4/2008 12:31:36 PM
- re: A slam-dunk prediction now that Social Security hasn't been "privatized". - gbaikie - 12/3/2008 7:53:46 PM
  - You are kidding, of course. Anything for a laugh. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/3/2008 8:26:12 PM
- re: A slam-dunk prediction - TB - 12/3/2008 5:58:55 PM
  - Well, EXCUSE MEEEEEE! - Eri - 12/4/2008 7:28:35 PM
  - Exactly. Precisely. Now, a country must provide opportunity or benefits. - Bowser - 12/3/2008 8:32:38 PM
  - the only way they will stop being oblivious - FrankC - 12/3/2008 8:10:28 PM

Follow up on the Salvation Army - azstrummer - 12/2/2008 3:29:33 PM
- Careful. - TB - 12/2/2008 8:13:28 PM
  - I never perceived that about funding percentages - azstrummer - 12/2/2008 9:43:17 PM
    - The "original topic" - TB - 12/3/2008 1:58:09 AM
      - Why am I not surprised? - azstrummer - 12/3/2008 6:00:22 PM
        
        Okay. - TB - 12/3/2008 6:26:35 PM
        
        Still evasive - azstrummer - 12/3/2008 7:34:23 PM
        
        re: evasive - TB - 12/4/2008 3:37:23 AM
      - I was the one that raised that issue. - Bowser - 12/3/2008 5:55:40 AM
- What does that do to the fund-raising cost percentages? - Bowser - 12/2/2008 4:32:42 PM

No to AGW thread moved to flame, sorry (n/t) - Raoul moderating - 11/25/2008 4:58:46 PM
- On modelling... - nick hoffman - 12/2/2008 11:17:13 PM
  - re: On modelling... - S - 12/3/2008 6:25:23 PM
- Why? - Marsby - 11/27/2008 10:09:53 PM
- Completely unjustified.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:03:47 PM
  - Maybe if you learn to debate in a more civil tone. (n/t) - Lee - 11/25/2008 6:17:02 PM
    - LOL - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 9:36:19 AM
      - How many times have I been suspended for harassment and bad chat form? - Lee - 11/26/2008 5:03:24 PM
        
        Yep, instead you cunningly milk the system for all it's worth - ! - 11/27/2008 2:44:20 PM
        
        No, I know how to debate an issue. - Lee - 11/28/2008 3:25:47 AM
        
        - a perfect example of the point made above (n/t) - ! - 11/28/2008 4:58:37 AM
        
        Welcome to the arena of ideas. - Lee - 11/28/2008 3:43:39 PM
        
        QED (n/t) - ! - 11/29/2008 3:09:42 AM
        
        I've done it quite a few times, Lee. - Bowser - 11/27/2008 12:32:26 AM
        
        Not enough certainly (n/t) - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 10:27:03 PM
    - There was and is no 'debate'. - Post Sputnik - 11/25/2008 6:32:58 PM
      - Thank you for sharing your dogma. - Lee - 11/25/2008 11:53:12 PM
      - re: There was and is no 'debate'. - S - 11/25/2008 9:35:05 PM
        
        Anyone that takes 'S' seriously should do a little research on his 'source'...The very fact that this is the best you can come up with proves my point.... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 7:37:53 AM
        
        A July 2007 review of 539 abstracts - Post Sputnik - 11/26/2008 12:10:04 AM
        
        Does that apply to Oreskes, too? (n/t) - TB - 11/27/2008 9:06:00 PM
        
        If you don't express yourself and link to evidence ... - Post Sputnik - 11/28/2008 12:01:15 AM
        
        re: If you don't express yourself - TB - 11/28/2008 12:22:14 AM
        
        re: If you don't express yourself - Post Sputnik - 11/28/2008 2:04:35 AM
        
        Wiki - TB - 11/28/2008 2:16:40 AM
        
        That was vandalism, Tom - pwokenyaw - 11/28/2008 10:34:34 PM
        
        Made my point, though. - TB - 11/29/2008 1:33:38 AM
        
        Not hardly - your vandalism was quickly deleted. - pwokenyaw - 11/30/2008 8:02:17 PM
        
        The issue... - TB - 12/1/2008 5:18:36 AM
        
        re: The issue... - Post Sputnik - 12/2/2008 3:58:28 AM
        
        re: The issue... - pwokenyaw - 12/3/2008 6:09:25 PM
        
        TB - A Liar And Proud Of It - Post Sputnik - 12/1/2008 3:25:11 AM
        
        nice quote from the endicrinologist you have there - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 10:14:32 PM
        
        Is being an endocrinologist significant in itself? - TB - 11/26/2008 2:30:25 AM
        
        Yes - Marsby - 11/27/2008 7:31:36 PM
        
        There's that "expert" again. - TB - 11/27/2008 9:16:23 PM
        
        You're Confused - Marsby - 11/28/2008 1:57:00 AM
        
        re: You're Confused - gbaikie - 11/28/2008 8:56:01 AM
        
        You Are Full Of BS - Marsby - 12/1/2008 5:46:46 AM
        
        re: You Are Full Of BS - gbaikie - 12/1/2008 9:46:22 AM
        
        re: You're Confused - gbaikie - 11/28/2008 7:23:37 AM
        
        re: You're Confused - Marsby - 12/1/2008 5:32:13 AM
        
        re: You're Confused - gbaikie - 12/1/2008 9:27:21 AM
        
        and back we go again to the evolution debate - pwokenyaw - 11/26/2008 5:16:30 AM
        
        Evolution - Post Sputnik - 11/27/2008 9:18:03 AM
        
        oh to be a watchmaker ;) - Brian Gyles - 11/26/2008 4:03:58 AM
        
        should've been "endocrinologist" (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/26/2008 12:02:15 AM
        
        Actually, I kind of like "endicrinologist". (n/t) - ER - 11/26/2008 12:35:03 AM

Found on "Alternet" - TB - 12/2/2008 8:24:00 PM
- PTL, I'll see you that and raise you a Pat Robertson. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/3/2008 5:22:25 AM

Amurka The Dumberer - Murkier - 12/3/2008 3:00:10 AM

"Bernanke says crisis 'no comparison' to Great Depression" - Bowser - 12/2/2008 4:41:25 PM

History - "Bush vetoes healthcare plan for poor children" - $5billion a year. - Bowser - 11/29/2008 9:53:27 AM
- A family earning "$64,000" a year is poor? - RobVG - 11/29/2008 5:49:53 PM
  - Poorer than a bank w/CEO making $100 million. Who got the bucks? (n/t) - Bowser - 11/29/2008 8:06:00 PM

Another aspect of the "Bush Legacy". - Bowser - 11/29/2008 5:23:45 AM

Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - S - 11/22/2008 8:20:58 PM
- "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - S - 11/26/2008 9:24:40 PM
- U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007 - S - 11/25/2008 10:37:53 PM
  - Long ago debunked here and elsewhere.... not only are you spamming BS, You are spamming out of date BS that even TB wouldnt try to sell here... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 7:55:22 AM
- New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears - S - 11/25/2008 9:47:45 PM
  - You Are So Confused - Marsby - 11/27/2008 9:02:14 PM
  - Sen. Inhofe and his staff oompa-loompas don't speak for the Senate Committee - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 10:40:36 PM
- Why do some denialists claim to be environmentalists? - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:52:52 AM
  - I don't know. - TB - 11/25/2008 5:09:27 PM
    - TB... - et - 11/25/2008 6:24:36 PM
      - Go down the posts on this subject and read your second paragraph again. (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:44:05 PM
        
        The dynamics of global warming/climate change arent goverened by discourse here in HZ. - end transmission - 11/25/2008 7:04:35 PM
    - Same reason as the reaction we have against evolution deniers. (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:38:23 PM
      - Unfortunately... - TB - 11/25/2008 6:17:35 PM
        
        Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - et - 11/25/2008 6:27:51 PM
        
        re: Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - TB - 11/25/2008 6:59:18 PM
        
        No - Marsby - 11/27/2008 7:54:20 PM
- More on the "petition" - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:54:48 AM
  - The Climate Underground - ER - 11/25/2008 4:48:42 AM
    - They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:06:44 AM
      - Unlike the United Nations (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:18:43 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:51:01 PM
        
        The difference is... - TB - 11/25/2008 7:04:53 PM
        
        When Will You Admit That Businesses Are Based On Self Centered Greed? - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:28:40 PM
      - re: They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - Lee - 11/25/2008 12:55:11 PM
        
        More nonsense.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:39:59 PM
        
        And who funds them? Anybody at all "political?" (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:42:31 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? (n/t) - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:48:55 PM
        
        Are they talking about AGW or just GW? - Lee - 11/25/2008 6:23:25 PM
        
        They are talking about AGW, and the point is that the science isn't in doubt - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:41:05 PM
- Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - S - 11/24/2008 9:11:01 PM
  - That is complete BS.... - ARRELL\ - 11/25/2008 2:39:29 AM
    - It must be true, it's on the internet. - ER - 11/25/2008 3:04:02 AM
      - re:The main stream media is obviously covering only one sided stories. (n/t) - Johannes - 11/26/2008 9:00:03 PM
  - re: Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:29:27 PM
- Hans Schreuder's Letter to EPA - S - 11/23/2008 10:33:42 PM
- Sometimes ordinary people get it right, even if they have wierd reasons. - zed - 11/23/2008 1:41:17 AM
  - Weird Reasons, Specious Arguments, Junk Science - S - 11/23/2008 9:28:10 PM
- It is a well-known scientifical fack - - - - Bowser - 11/23/2008 12:22:41 AM
  - Facts and Fancies - S - 11/23/2008 9:58:00 PM
    - Who exactly are you trying to fool? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:41:03 AM
      - re: I can agree with everything except - Johannes - 11/26/2008 10:12:10 PM
      - re: Who exactly are you trying to fool? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 8:41:34 AM
        
        "Sea level have not risen significantly in the last hundred years, nor are they expected to rise much in next hundred years."- where do you get this nonsense? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 12:35:57 PM
        
        Your graphs actually agree with each other - Laurie Street - 11/25/2008 3:55:20 PM
        
        re: Your graphs actually agree with each other - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:12:08 AM
        
        where do you get this nonsense? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:26:27 PM
        
        Think it through... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:02:57 PM
        
        re: Think it through... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:22:40 AM
        
        Entire first paragraph vanished.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:08:35 PM
        
        re: Entire first paragraph vanished.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:40:03 AM
    - I certainly am connecting those dots. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:31:44 PM
      - Dots can be connected in many ways - S - 11/23/2008 10:47:27 PM
- Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/22/2008 11:31:42 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:04:21 AM
    - Bingo. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 6:27:27 AM
      - re: Bingo. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:45:37 AM
        
        Socialism, for one. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:36:22 PM
        
        re: Socialism, for one. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:05:19 PM
        
        You asked for ways to control greed. You got them. Now go away. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/24/2008 3:24:43 AM
        
        I take you agree with what I said? (n/t) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 4:01:42 AM
    - "economic and political interests" - TB - 11/23/2008 5:31:53 AM
      - re: "economic and political interests" - ER - 11/23/2008 6:40:53 AM
        
        I disagree. - TB - 11/23/2008 4:56:26 PM
        
        Feel free. - ER - 11/23/2008 5:42:16 PM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 4:41:52 AM
      - I stand by my statement. Go in peace. (n/t) - ER - 11/23/2008 5:25:02 AM
  - A response - TB - 11/23/2008 2:59:25 AM
    - Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - Marsby - 11/24/2008 6:13:53 AM
      - Photosynthesis - S - 11/24/2008 9:42:26 PM
        
        That's Handwaiving Not Reason - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:23:14 PM
        
        "Try using Occam's razor folks." - S - 11/26/2008 10:02:23 PM
        
        re: "Try using Occam's razor folks." - Faulty Attempt - Marsby - 11/28/2008 2:05:18 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 2:51:42 AM
        
        "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:31:36 PM
        
        re: "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:58:09 AM
        
        Too Many Variables For You To Juggle - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:55:16 PM
        
        Do your own damn research... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 8:10:19 AM
        
        re: Do your own damn research... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:43:21 AM
        
        You have a point. - Marsby - 11/25/2008 5:58:12 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 11:56:41 PM
      - re: Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:03:42 PM
        
        Using Your Own Numbers - Marsby - 11/24/2008 11:12:57 PM
        
        re: Using Your Own Numbers - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:33:04 AM
        
        More Misleading "Facts" From GB - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:47:04 PM
        
        re: More Misleading "Facts" From GB - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 7:10:50 AM
      - re: Could you direct me to the experiment? - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:40:19 PM
        
        try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 6:34:09 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:29:44 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:10:23 PM
        
        When - Nick Hoffman - 11/25/2008 2:53:24 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 4:49:34 AM
        
        re: When - nick hoffman - 11/25/2008 8:48:48 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 12:49:53 PM
        
        re: Addendum - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:57:34 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 2:10:10 AM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:10:39 AM
      - Misplaced post, - ER - 11/23/2008 3:22:54 AM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - Post Sputnik - 11/22/2008 10:50:28 PM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - gbaikie - 11/22/2008 10:10:53 PM

You would think... - ER - 11/26/2008 12:30:06 AM
- re: It would be nice - Johannes - 11/27/2008 4:05:30 AM
  - Sigh. - Laurie Street - 11/27/2008 6:02:57 AM
    - re:.Very interesting, thank you. - Johannes - 11/27/2008 11:28:26 PM
- See... - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/26/2008 4:48:59 AM
- Faith-based science is as immovable as faith-based politics. - Bowser - 11/26/2008 4:20:06 AM
- re: You would think... - TB - 11/26/2008 1:34:42 AM
  - What exactly do you think? - Laurie Street - 11/26/2008 11:40:25 PM
    - I can't do it in two lines. - TB - 11/27/2008 12:11:56 AM
      - And frankly, I'd be suspicious of anyone who could! (n/t) - TB - 11/27/2008 12:15:18 AM
        
        Personally, I'm suspicious of anyone who cannot state their basic position succinctly. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 11/27/2008 6:04:12 AM
        
        The basics. - TB - 11/27/2008 10:55:56 PM
        
        re: The basics. - gbaikie - 11/28/2008 1:31:48 AM
  - You reject the the overwhelmig scientific consensus, you claim coverup of "the real truth" by scientists, opression of dissenters, all of which requires a vast conspiracy of 10-100's of thousands of… - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 7:59:56 AM
    - BS - TB - 11/26/2008 7:55:59 PM
      - Sheesh whats old is new again.... I Already addressed that article about Svensmark - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 8:38:55 PM
        
        Yeah, and with your usual flair. - TB - 11/26/2008 9:55:56 PM
        
        re: Yeah, and with your usual flair. - gbaikie - 11/27/2008 4:50:56 AM
    - Variety Headline - ER - 11/26/2008 1:42:41 PM
  - re: You would think... - ER - 11/26/2008 4:07:31 AM
    - Petition Project - TB - 11/26/2008 5:39:29 AM
      - Two seconds on the website would have told you this. - ER - 11/26/2008 12:16:42 PM
        
        If you don't actually want answers, just say so. - TB - 11/26/2008 7:36:30 PM
        
        Organizations like that are all over the place, - ER - 11/26/2008 9:14:36 PM
        
        What's so funny - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 10:25:53 PM
        
        I don't want to do this any more. - ER - 11/26/2008 11:20:32 PM
        
        The "c" word again. - TB - 11/26/2008 10:10:40 PM
        
        I'll meet you halfway. - ER - 11/26/2008 11:10:01 PM
        
        re: I'll meet you halfway. - TB - 11/26/2008 11:47:41 PM
        
        I can live with that. - ER - 11/27/2008 12:36:59 AM
  - And yes... - TB - 11/26/2008 1:54:54 AM

"UFO ascending to Heaven IDed as Jesus" - Moved to Flame at request of Devil. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/26/2008 10:01:52 PM
- Ahhh, go to hell! - Archangel Michael - 11/27/2008 12:21:31 AM
  - I agree! BTW, that IS Flame. - Lucifer - 11/27/2008 12:30:51 AM
- Moderator - please move to Off Tobic. (n/t) - Atheist - 11/26/2008 10:02:33 PM
  - This belongs on Community. (n/t) - Billy Graham - 11/26/2008 10:03:13 PM
    - Belongs on Geek Speak for further exploration. (n/t) - NASA - 11/26/2008 10:04:01 PM
      - Shift to CE or be damned! (n/t) - Super Ubermoderator of the First Degree - 11/26/2008 10:04:50 PM

"Green Obamaâ€™s official limo is a gas guzzler" - they're starting already. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 6:11:38 PM
- What happened to hearts and minds? - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/26/2008 5:12:33 AM
- "Aha!" Gotcha journalism - ER - 11/24/2008 2:55:44 AM
- It's inane to hold the President to the same transportation standards as anyone else. - TB - 11/23/2008 6:43:00 PM
  - As posted before, the Secret Service would be outgunned at a public school. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/23/2008 7:31:05 PM
  - If there were a force field generator, the Romulans would engineer a work-around. - Mary Anne - 11/23/2008 6:58:39 PM

I would think. (And one issue has been resolved.) - Bowser - 11/26/2008 4:00:45 AM

Biggest robbery in the history of the world. $3.18 trillion shovelled to financial institutions without accountability. - Bowser - 11/25/2008 5:13:53 AM
- Ilya Somin comments - TB - 11/26/2008 1:58:36 AM

A pet peeve - The Salvation Army - Bowser - 11/21/2008 8:16:01 AM
- Everyone on the planet should work a soup kitchen on a holiday at least once. - alcaray - 11/21/2008 11:24:41 PM
  - And eat in one. If not a soup kitchen, per se, a restaurant geared toward skid row. - Bowser - 11/22/2008 5:45:53 AM
    - Better yet...live on skid row. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/22/2008 9:48:05 AM
      - Giving yourself a lesson in economics? - Lindy - 11/22/2008 3:36:11 PM
        
        Both are Prisoners. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/22/2008 7:34:59 PM
        
        We had a similar discussion in a French literature class. - Mary Anne - 11/23/2008 9:47:58 PM
        
        It gets deeper than that. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/25/2008 7:20:21 AM
        
        That was more realistic (n/t) - Lindy - 11/22/2008 9:43:46 PM
        
        You sure? - RobVG - 11/22/2008 8:34:48 PM
        
        No need for conjecture or television. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/22/2008 10:45:15 PM
        
        "One of the requisites of a good writer ..."- And you would know this... how? - ARRELL - 11/23/2008 8:22:56 AM
        
        So now you have a Bentley too? - Lindy - 11/23/2008 3:43:25 AM
        
        Tense. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/25/2008 7:44:50 AM
        
        Fair enough - RobVG - 11/22/2008 11:12:49 PM
        
        Ms. Ehrenreich? Barbara? Is that really you? - Mary Anne - 11/22/2008 10:50:19 PM
        
        Jumping to Conclusions - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/25/2008 1:11:59 PM
        
        No, but Techie DOES have a severe "Fear of Falling". (n/t) - ER - 11/23/2008 12:15:57 AM
        
        She's still my girl. - ER - 11/23/2008 12:20:31 AM
- I support the SA. - ER - 11/21/2008 3:15:52 PM
  - Me, too. - Eri - 11/22/2008 3:09:11 AM
  - Same here. - TB - 11/21/2008 7:22:29 PM
    - My Dad was a big SA supporter - FrankC - 11/21/2008 9:30:42 PM
    - And BTW... - TB - 11/21/2008 9:07:25 PM
    - The slush filled streets - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/21/2008 8:48:59 PM
- Man, am I with you - azstrummer - 11/21/2008 2:30:00 PM
  - there are religious welfare orgs that require that but... - FrankC - 11/21/2008 9:40:36 PM
    - If I'm wrong about that it's a good thing - azstrummer - 11/24/2008 2:27:38 PM
  - Where in the world did you see people having to sit through preaching to get SA aid? (n/t) - TB - 11/21/2008 7:27:16 PM
  - Wow, some other perspectives - Lindy - 11/21/2008 5:41:00 PM

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