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What choices do we have? - Tony - 9/29/2006 4:11:25 PM
- Disgusted with the whole process - Lindy - 9/30/2006 10:19:02 PM
- Freedom of choice - ER - 9/30/2006 3:13:56 AM
- All of them - Robert - 9/29/2006 11:04:12 PM
  - You seem to have it backwards. - Lee - 9/30/2006 6:28:02 AM
    - re: You seem to have it backwards. - Robert - 9/30/2006 5:57:22 PM
- Ya don't need an umbrella if you stay out of the rain....... - Publius - 9/29/2006 9:34:52 PM
  - Quipso custodiat something-or-other - Robert - 9/29/2006 10:49:20 PM
    - Howze 'bout....quis custodiat ipsos custodes? - Publius - 9/30/2006 3:49:03 PM
    - Sounds noble, open-minded, thoughtful. - Bowser - 9/30/2006 1:41:40 AM
      - re: Sounds noble, open-minded, thoughtful. - Robert - 9/30/2006 3:02:29 AM
        
        Ah, so. As usual, you are correct. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/30/2006 3:40:32 AM
      - "Either with us or against us!" LMAO! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/30/2006 1:56:53 AM
        
        "Extremeism in defense of liberty is no vice." (n/t) - Barry Goldwater - 9/30/2006 2:43:49 AM
        
        So NOW we're quoting 'dangerous', 'crazy' Goldwater...is Reagan next? LMAO! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/30/2006 3:19:30 AM
        
        Modern Wingers demonstrate that "dangerous" and "crazy" are relative terms - Robert - 10/1/2006 3:06:02 AM
        
        "We have met the enemy, and it is us." (n/t) - Pogo Possum - 9/30/2006 3:45:15 AM
- Money Talk - FrankC - 9/29/2006 8:26:34 PM
  - The Founders took out insurance... - Robert - 9/29/2006 10:33:46 PM
  - re: Money Talk - gbaikie - 9/29/2006 10:29:19 PM
  - re: Same thing happened in France - Raoul - 9/29/2006 8:55:02 PM
- A bit of a misunderstanding. - Bowser - 9/29/2006 7:49:58 PM
  - WOW! Awesome post Arf! - Buck Galaxy - 9/30/2006 6:05:53 AM
  - I'm OK with disorganized - Tony - 9/29/2006 9:20:13 PM
- I feel your pain. - REB - 9/29/2006 6:53:17 PM
- Fuck with them - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 5:23:36 PM
- Jabbertalky - You know - 9/29/2006 5:11:38 PM

A challenge for this upcoming election - azstrummer - 9/26/2006 11:12:49 PM
- Good luck. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2006 1:30:42 PM
  - So you're basing your vote not on the candidate's qualifications, but on cancelling out Art? - Mary Anne - 9/28/2006 11:43:13 PM
  - re: Good luck. - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 5:53:01 PM
- Not my bag - alcaray - 9/27/2006 5:21:59 PM
  - re: Not my bag - azstrummer - 9/27/2006 6:25:07 PM
    - At the moment, I have no Republican reps but our fearless leader - alcaray - 9/27/2006 9:55:34 PM
      - re: At the moment, I have no Republican reps but our fearless leader - azstrummer - 9/27/2006 10:09:06 PM
        
        Yea, but - alcaray - 9/27/2006 11:00:59 PM
    - Mail - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 9:26:58 PM
      - re: Mail - azstrummer - 9/27/2006 10:12:00 PM
- You've shamed me. I'll write. - Bowser - 9/26/2006 11:24:08 PM
  - re: Power tends to corrupt and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely - Scott Evil - 9/28/2006 1:34:20 PM
  - Will you use your alter ego? - azstrummer - 9/27/2006 10:16:11 PM
    - Scroom! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/27/2006 10:50:38 PM

The Great HZ Experiment Continues... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/26/2006 12:04:55 PM
- Loss Leader - ER - 9/26/2006 10:30:14 PM
  - If - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 1:24:42 AM
- I must be doing something right - Robert - 9/26/2006 4:38:15 PM
  - "You really can't leave this authoritarian conservatism thing alone" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 1:13:27 AM
    - re: "You really can't leave this authoritarian conservatism thing alone" - Robert - 9/27/2006 2:51:21 AM
      - A picture is worth a thousand words. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 3:37:38 AM
    - If "manic" = "fed up", I'd agree. - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 2:22:46 AM
      - You guys and gals are losing it. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 3:25:12 AM
        
        LOLOL. Nice piece of fiction. - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 12:17:41 PM
        
        They're politicians - they are risk averse. ;-) aka Straddle-Waddlers (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 6:56:18 PM
        
        And why would they consider aligning themselves with the President risky? - Mary Anne - 9/28/2006 1:51:38 PM
        
        Oh That Part - ID - 9/27/2006 5:07:18 PM
        
        No time to vivisect... - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 6:04:51 PM
        
        Playdoh - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 9:35:31 PM
        
        Same recipe - Mary Anne - 9/28/2006 1:45:20 PM
        
        re: Same recipe - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 8:55:47 PM
        
        The HZ Kitchen - Lindy - 9/27/2006 4:13:21 AM
  - It's not that "he can't apply the pure scientific method to human affairs." - et - 9/26/2006 6:58:46 PM
    - Remember Douglas Adams. - Mary Anne - 9/26/2006 7:34:34 PM
- "fear"? really? - alcaray - 9/26/2006 3:56:32 PM
  - "I guess handing conservatives their well-roasted asses on a platter is having an effect after all." - Lindy - 9/26/2006 11:55:04 PM
    - re: "I guess handing conservatives their well-roasted asses on a platter is having an effect after all." - azstrummer - 9/27/2006 10:13:45 PM
      - Where I come from... - Lindy - 9/28/2006 1:45:13 AM
- That was funny - Lindy - 9/26/2006 2:52:45 PM
- That is cute. Yer battin' 0.001! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/26/2006 2:40:13 PM

Now you know this Imam's turban is wrapped a bit too tightly - sz - 9/23/2006 3:05:24 AM
- He doesn't understand much about entertainment, that's plain. - Mary Anne - 9/24/2006 8:58:15 PM
- he is probably right - alcaray - 9/23/2006 3:33:56 PM
  - Ohhhh, does this mean........ - Publius - 9/23/2006 7:16:39 PM
    - You wish.......... (n/t) - Lindy - 9/24/2006 1:39:47 AM
- Well. That turban isn't completely soggy. - Bowser - 9/23/2006 4:00:45 AM
  - There are certainly those who take comfort... - sz - 9/23/2006 7:34:03 PM
    - Exactly like fundamental Christians. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/23/2006 8:15:11 PM
  - THAT was funny Bowser - Lindy - 9/23/2006 4:17:26 AM

Empathy - Bowser - 8/23/2006 6:26:22 AM
- re: Empathy - REB - 8/24/2006 1:37:56 PM
  - All people do around here is ignore questions. Are you without sin? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/24/2006 3:29:52 PM
    - Nope. I am a sinner. Didn't somebody on this thred say "I NOTICED NO, NOT ONE, CONSERVATIVE WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. - REB - 8/24/2006 3:41:38 PM
      - I jost thought there was irony in the fact... - alcaray - 8/24/2006 4:58:32 PM
        
        Come to think of it, I have never knowingly ignored a question that was directed specifically at me. - REB - 8/24/2006 5:20:09 PM
        
        Excepting the posts you respond to? [giggle] (n/t) - alcaray - 8/24/2006 6:24:10 PM
        
        I did say "Usually". I did not say "Always" - REB - 8/24/2006 6:27:46 PM
      - re: None of your business - Raoul - 8/24/2006 3:58:58 PM
        
        re: None of your business - Lindy - 8/24/2006 10:43:22 PM
        
        You do realize that you have just lost any shred of credibility? - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 6:24:01 PM
        
        I think Raoul has the typical European mindset on this issue- which I can not understand. - REB - 8/24/2006 7:01:05 PM
        
        re: Arguments, nothing but good arguments - Raoul - 8/24/2006 8:24:40 PM
        
        Speaking of unanswered questions, I still have one for you. - REB - 8/24/2006 4:36:56 PM
        
        re: The Allies during WW2 were not just made of american troops - Raoul - 8/24/2006 5:38:55 PM
        
        I'm sure all those allies would have liberated Europe sooner or later without the USA's input of 250,000 dead troops. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 6:26:45 PM
        
        And how can a society that sufferer under a ruthless dictator, which took foreign help to conquerâ€¦ - REB - 8/24/2006 4:29:15 PM
        
        re: Saddam had NOT invaded any country since it had been contained - Raoul - 8/24/2006 5:29:17 PM
        
        re: Saddam had NOT invaded any country since it had been contained - Justice - 9/24/2006 3:45:39 PM
        
        But he had invaded two countries. - REB - 8/24/2006 5:39:24 PM
        
        re:For which he had been punished by sanctions, no fly zones, etc.. - Raoul - 8/24/2006 5:53:30 PM
        
        Yes, and he still continued to murder his own people under while the UN looked away. - REB - 8/24/2006 6:04:27 PM
        
        re: Inside a country - Raoul - 8/24/2006 6:15:28 PM
        
        The UN failed Iraq. - REB - 8/24/2006 6:28:46 PM
        
        re: the problem after the first Gulf War wasn't that the USA left Sadam in power. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 6:34:59 PM
        
        President Bush, in 1990, should have taken Saddam out. - REB - 8/24/2006 6:43:48 PM
        
        In hindsight, you are correct. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 7:05:21 PM
        
        re: In hindsight, you are correct. - REB - 8/24/2006 7:32:43 PM
        
        re:Dittos REB - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 10:09:38 PM
        
        re: re:Dittos REB - REB - 8/25/2006 1:24:32 PM
        
        When the UN, who was sent to protect those people, failed, then it should be somebodies business. - REB - 8/24/2006 4:12:03 PM
        
        re: Hitler was invading countries, was allied to Japan and thus it became your business (n/t) - Raoul - 8/24/2006 5:18:53 PM
        
        But he really could not physically harm America. He was your problem, not ours. - REB - 8/24/2006 5:24:48 PM
        
        re: What about the V2 successors, able to cross the Atlantic Ocean? (n/t) - Raoul - 8/24/2006 5:31:04 PM
        
        They could barley make it across the English Channel, forget trying to hit a target. - REB - 8/24/2006 5:44:09 PM
        
        re: With a little time - Raoul - 8/24/2006 6:04:52 PM
        
        re: With a little time...Saddam could have been a threat - REB - 8/24/2006 6:31:30 PM
        
        re: Preemptive war - Raoul - 8/24/2006 8:00:47 PM
  - In Bowser's world. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 2:05:38 PM
- You don't really want to know. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/24/2006 5:25:50 AM
  - Always good to get a postcard from planet Tech - alcaray - 8/24/2006 3:13:24 PM
  - It's an innocuous, straightforward post. Nothing complex. And y'all flunked. - Bowser - 8/24/2006 5:50:41 AM
    - Here's where you start to conflict... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/24/2006 9:53:20 AM
      - Hello darkness my old friend... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/26/2006 8:20:37 PM
- I NOTICE NO, NOT ONE, CONSERVATIVE WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. - Bowser - 8/23/2006 11:05:36 PM
- If they alledged raper and murderers are found guilty, then they will be hanged. - Scott Evil - 8/23/2006 6:18:51 PM
  - And that brings back your son, grandchildren, undos the rape? (n/t) - Bowser - 8/23/2006 7:05:15 PM
    - Yes. as does flying a plane into the World Trade Center. - Scott Evil - 8/23/2006 7:58:31 PM
- re: Empathy - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 7:06:34 AM
  - Empathy? - Publius - 8/23/2006 10:17:14 PM
    - You, on the other hand, do a much better job of faking rational thinking. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 10:40:09 PM
  - How many Iraqis were involved in WTC? Typical dissembling. - Bowser - 8/23/2006 7:03:42 PM
    - Iraw ean't invaded to avenge the World Trade Center. That would have been uncivilized. - Scott Evil - 8/23/2006 8:00:54 PM
      - Is it neo-con season? - azstrummer - 8/23/2006 8:39:06 PM
        
        Please give a link to the Neo-con sources who have argued FOR a USA theocracy... - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 3:41:05 PM
        
        re: Please give a link to the Neo-con sources who have argued FOR a USA theocracy... - azstrummer - 8/25/2006 6:14:03 AM
        
        "I can think of horrific things.." Good grief. Name one. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 10:48:18 PM
        
        re: "I can think of horrific things.." Good grief. Name one. - azstrummer - 8/23/2006 11:28:47 PM
        
        Jumping in. - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2006 6:54:06 AM
        
        It's open season---fire away!!!!! (n/t) - Publius - 8/23/2006 10:20:36 PM
        
        Clearly, P., their cannons have no balls. They use other folks. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/24/2006 5:52:16 AM
        
        re: Clearly you enjoy licking your own. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 3:42:27 PM
  - You're warped - azstrummer - 8/23/2006 6:40:53 PM
    - I can't go slowly enough. It's too much work. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 7:21:53 PM
      - Nice try - azstrummer - 8/23/2006 8:33:52 PM
        
        re: Nice try - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 10:46:30 PM
        
        Don't hold back Tom - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/24/2006 1:16:33 AM
  - "You do know that statement has absolutely no connection to what I said, right?" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 5:50:30 PM
    - Talking to yourself Tom? - FrankC - 8/23/2006 6:03:39 PM
      - Just to clarify - FrankC - 8/24/2006 3:57:34 AM

On NASA Employees - Chris Vancil - 9/24/2006 5:39:59 AM

National Bush Cartoons - Lindy - 9/22/2006 3:35:07 AM
- re: National Bush Cartoons - Bowser - 9/23/2006 2:59:06 AM

The Mind - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 1:12:21 AM
- Did you think we wouldn't notice.... - podrock - 9/20/2006 2:55:53 AM
  - Hey you noticed.. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/20/2006 3:36:00 AM
- "This world is a battle ground for your mind." - Robert - 9/19/2006 8:45:22 PM
  - Authoritarianism is neither just left or right. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/19/2006 11:04:41 PM
    - True, but there is only authoritarian conservatism - Robert - 9/20/2006 4:17:48 PM
      - re: True, but there is only authoritarian conservatism - Laurie Street - 9/22/2006 1:26:23 AM
        
        Nicely put - Robert - 9/22/2006 4:25:14 PM
        
        " You only need one vote to give up democracy, while restoring it usually requires a revolution." - Lindy - 9/23/2006 1:35:57 AM
      - "there is only authoritarian conservatism" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/22/2006 12:28:52 AM
        
        "Is!"...."Is not!" - Robert - 9/22/2006 4:33:46 PM
        
        C) Libertarian - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/23/2006 1:36:46 AM
        
        ouch - Robert - 9/22/2006 4:34:18 PM
        
        "When the masses rally behind a Chavez, Hitler, Mao or Lenin we see fine examples of ...." - Lindy - 9/22/2006 1:23:25 AM
    - "If we allow a messed up homeowners association to give us an ulcer..." - Lindy - 9/20/2006 12:36:27 AM
    - " "The right is out of control and stealing your freedom, elect me and I will restore things to the proper order!" - Lindy - 9/20/2006 12:32:34 AM
- The Manic Mind, the 'Meliorative Meds. Take 'em. Step up to sanity. - Bowser - 9/19/2006 7:48:08 PM
- So we've officially switched to the persona that... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 3:27:44 PM
  - "hate with a giggle" - nice turn of phrase (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 7:55:44 PM
    - Descriptive and appropriate. Wish I'd thought of it. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/19/2006 5:07:28 AM
  - Remember say "authoritarian conservative"... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2006 7:51:59 PM
    - "You must be capable of absorbing data without allowing extreme biases to develop." - Lindy - 9/18/2006 9:37:05 PM
    - Haven't read the book so I'm not qualified. - alcaray - 9/18/2006 9:09:45 PM
    - re: Remember say "authoritarian conservative"... - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 9:09:10 PM
- hey - what happened? - shmoe - 9/16/2006 3:09:00 PM
- "This world is a battle ground for your mind." - Lindy - 9/16/2006 4:56:00 AM
  - re: "This world is a battle ground for your mind." - Lindy - 9/16/2006 5:00:53 AM
    - Case in point. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 7:47:03 PM
      - re: Case in point. - azstrummer - 9/16/2006 11:52:52 PM
        
        re: Case in point. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/17/2006 4:11:46 AM
        
        "Being against war..." - Lindy - 9/17/2006 7:20:41 PM
        
        re: Case in point. - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 5:49:02 PM
- re: The Mind - azstrummer - 9/16/2006 3:42:08 AM
  - Normally I would... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 8:00:35 PM
- re: The Mind - Johannes - 9/16/2006 2:16:21 AM
  - Angels - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 2:27:35 AM
    - re: Angels - Johannes - 9/16/2006 3:21:31 AM
      - Bush - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/16/2006 8:06:38 PM

Political science for dummies - Lindy - 9/22/2006 4:28:03 AM
- re: Political science for dummies - Lindy - 9/22/2006 3:38:38 PM
  - That's wonderfully funny (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/22/2006 5:31:34 PM
- Try "HTML for Dummies" first (n/t) - :-p - 9/22/2006 3:29:57 PM
  - Let those who have never screwed that up cast the first stone... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2006 3:39:59 PM

A Video of HZ Posters - phil from the hood - 9/22/2006 4:10:29 PM

fRE lrAlV - LrAnlAlV s2udent - 9/21/2006 4:34:44 AM
- More of this nonsense, eh? - et - 9/21/2006 10:06:30 PM
- forgery--vocabulary & grammar is to good for the spelling - ER - 9/21/2006 11:33:33 AM
  - His IP is coming out of Montreal - REB - 9/21/2006 3:19:25 PM
- Why don't you stop him? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/21/2006 5:17:01 AM

Omission IS Deception - Desert Dweller - 9/14/2006 4:58:30 PM
- Thank you fot that - Buck Galaxy - 9/15/2006 6:26:19 AM
- re: Omission IS Deception - azstrummer - 9/14/2006 5:51:05 PM
  - See, this is the kind of wild Bush Bashing I'm talking about. No facts, just wild speculations - REB - 9/14/2006 9:18:34 PM
    - "Part of the reason oil prices have dipped is ......." - Lindy - 9/15/2006 3:24:13 AM
      - re: "Part of the reason oil prices have dipped is ......." - Desert Dweller - 9/16/2006 3:33:03 AM
        
        re: "Part of the reason oil prices have dipped is ......." - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 4:28:19 PM
        
        I've heard so many "excuses"......... - Lindy - 9/16/2006 4:02:55 AM
      - Not everything is a conspiracy. - REB - 9/15/2006 1:04:02 PM
        
        Definition of a conspiracy - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 7:41:44 PM
        
        And not everything isn't - Robert - 9/15/2006 4:01:05 PM
        
        re: And not everything isn't - REB - 9/15/2006 4:57:08 PM
        
        I'd stand on one leg if gas cost $1... - Robert - 9/17/2006 8:29:45 PM
    - Remember this story from '04? - alcaray - 9/14/2006 10:46:19 PM
      - re: Remember this story from '04? - REB - 9/15/2006 1:40:02 PM
        
        I wish that politics were as innocent as you (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2006 3:47:59 PM
        
        I wish some people would realize not everything is some great conspiracy - REB - 9/15/2006 3:55:09 PM
        
        "You canâ€™t keep a secret in Washington for very long. " - Lindy - 9/16/2006 4:11:01 AM
        
        There was an element of admiration and respect in my observation - alcaray - 9/15/2006 8:02:12 PM
        
        And I would agree - Lindy - 9/16/2006 4:15:48 AM
        
        re: There was an element of admiration and respect in my observation - REB - 9/15/2006 9:56:15 PM
        
        re: I wish some people would realize not everything is some great conspiracy - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 7:47:08 PM
        
        Please don't mention - Lindy - 9/16/2006 4:17:51 AM
        
        ??? (n/t) - REB - 9/18/2006 3:25:38 PM
        
        It's a conservative Christian joke......... - Lindy - 9/18/2006 9:46:17 PM
        
        Okay. No problem. - REB - 9/18/2006 9:54:51 PM
        
        I am tyoping too fast. - REB - 9/18/2006 10:02:55 PM
        
        Glad to hear you have..... - Lindy - 9/18/2006 10:23:59 PM
        
        re: Glad to hear you have..... - REB - 9/19/2006 3:36:57 PM
        
        re: Glad to hear you have..... - azstrummer - 9/19/2006 11:31:20 PM
        
        Thoughtful reply - Lindy - 9/20/2006 1:00:11 AM
        
        re: Please don't mention - azstrummer - 9/16/2006 7:51:44 AM
      - Thanks Alcaray - Lindy - 9/15/2006 12:57:58 AM
  - I don't trust anything coming out of this administration - Lindy - 9/14/2006 6:15:02 PM

Bush Bashing - continued - azstrummer - 9/14/2006 6:47:59 PM
- re: Bush Bashing - continued - REB - 9/15/2006 2:04:43 PM
  - re: Bush Bashing - continued - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 6:53:16 PM
    - re: Bush Bashing - continued - REB - 9/15/2006 7:00:07 PM
      - evil conspiracies - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 8:56:59 PM
        
        I see the problem. We donâ€™t respect each other's views. Perhaps because they are very opposite views. And I am guilty of that. - REB - 9/15/2006 9:45:45 PM
        
        re: I see the problem. We donâ€™t respect each other's views. Perhaps because they are very opposite views. And I am guilty of that. - azstrummer - 9/15/2006 11:19:09 PM
  - you haven't noticed any of the lies? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2006 5:15:15 PM
    - I have yet to see any proof of any lies. - REB - 9/15/2006 5:37:55 PM
      - We have this same discussion periodically - alcaray - 9/15/2006 7:59:33 PM
- re: Bush Bashing - continued - Desert Dweller - 9/14/2006 11:31:35 PM

Just for the Democrats.... - JELB - 9/7/2006 6:03:15 PM
- UNFAIR............. - Publius - 9/7/2006 9:51:49 PM
  - The line behind me is mostly Republican Congressional candidates. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/8/2006 1:55:33 PM
- re: Just for the Democrats.... - azstrummer - 9/7/2006 8:51:11 PM

Worth noting - another reason for the aggression in Iraq bites the dust. - Bowser - 9/4/2006 9:06:32 PM
- Remembering Daddy Bush - Alan G. Archer - 9/5/2006 8:49:17 AM
  - Can't find it. - Bowser - 9/5/2006 5:10:42 PM
- I feel your pain but............... - Lindy - 9/4/2006 11:10:27 PM
  - Be careful, Lindy. - Bowser - 9/5/2006 1:59:48 AM
  - Positives - any. Can think of two, am open to hearing others. - Bowser - 9/5/2006 12:03:50 AM
    - One more. Oil. This one is from John Abizaid, CinC Iraq - Bowser - 9/5/2006 1:55:39 AM
      - Boosting the flow of oil wasn't the reason for invading Iraq - SDF - 9/5/2006 2:21:11 AM
        
        The topic was what has been positive about the aggression in Iraq. - Bowser - 9/5/2006 3:58:14 AM

POW - ER - 9/3/2006 4:59:39 PM
- Here's something you might enjoy - Lindy - 9/3/2006 11:02:56 PM
  - I didn't enjoy it at all. - ER - 9/4/2006 1:20:33 AM
    - Mostly political reputations - Lindy - 9/4/2006 1:40:41 AM
- Look into it a bit farther. It's no myth. - Bowser - 9/3/2006 7:22:51 PM
  - Your claims are not unreasonable. - ER - 9/3/2006 8:02:42 PM
    - What? They are accurate and factual. - Bowser - 9/4/2006 4:05:42 AM

Death blow to astrology? - ER - 8/25/2006 3:25:27 PM
- Astrology thrived before Pluto, will survive after Pluto. - Bowser - 8/31/2006 4:24:55 PM
  - Transits of Pluto...... - Lindy - 8/31/2006 5:27:12 PM
    - Sorry, Lindy, yer out on that limb without me. - Bowser - 9/1/2006 3:23:14 AM
      - Jung told Freud.... - Lindy - 9/1/2006 3:37:05 AM
        
        Jung was heavy into I-Ching, too. - ER - 9/2/2006 1:41:12 PM
        
        So, what have you got sgainst Feng-Shui? (n/t) - Lindy - 9/3/2006 12:53:15 AM
        
        I never sleep better than when I'm on a boat. (n/t) - ER - 9/3/2006 1:44:41 PM
        
        Earth's own water bed? (n/t) - Lindy - 9/3/2006 1:55:37 PM
        
        Not only that... - ER - 9/3/2006 6:04:45 PM
        
        Poo Bah - Lindy - 9/3/2006 10:38:57 PM
        
        it all changes on how you align your bagua - podrock - 9/3/2006 5:06:11 AM
        
        I'll have to look into that. Interesting. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/2/2006 4:53:23 AM
- A Case For Astrology - Lindy - 8/29/2006 1:01:17 AM
  - Cheat your fate 101 - ER - 8/29/2006 12:48:19 PM
    - Astrology is mostly hokum - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2006 1:54:35 AM
      - Educated fortune telling? - Lindy - 8/30/2006 3:25:25 AM
        
        re: Educated fortune telling? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2006 9:31:18 AM
        
        "one's own still small voice" - Lindy - 8/30/2006 3:18:04 PM
        
        Define the small voice? Sure...but it's complex to say the very least. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/1/2006 3:15:56 AM
        
        Wiggle Room - Lindy - 9/1/2006 3:28:01 AM
      - Del, dot, cross and Laplacian for the vortically challenged. (n/t) - ER - 8/30/2006 3:15:49 AM
        
        Ride the curl ER...ride the curl! ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2006 9:12:29 AM
        
        Yep, I forgot that one. I've been a beret-head too long. (n/t) - ER - 8/30/2006 2:34:15 PM
- Mystic influences? - Lindy - 8/25/2006 8:07:55 PM
- I'm sure the lawsuits for religous discrimination are about to fly. - Scott Evil - 8/25/2006 7:06:48 PM
- to make it worse - FrankC - 8/25/2006 6:50:24 PM
- Careful................. - Publius - 8/25/2006 6:21:40 PM
  - The Vortex Strikes Back - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2006 10:27:18 AM
    - re: The Vortex Strikes Back - Publius - 8/30/2006 5:03:10 PM
      - SADI VectER, wherefore art thou? - Publius - 9/2/2006 3:19:40 PM
      - RAPID RIPOSTE RATTLES RIGHTIE (n/t) - ER - 8/30/2006 8:34:23 PM
    - The Dark Side always gets the best lines. - ER - 8/30/2006 2:48:43 PM
  - Vortices? Vibrations? Be careful yourself! That way lies madness. (n/t) - ER - 8/25/2006 7:57:13 PM
- Probably not - Fox - 8/25/2006 3:47:31 PM
  - Agreed. Consider the reason, logic and rationality in astrology. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/25/2006 4:15:26 PM
    - Yo Bowz - Lindy - 8/25/2006 8:11:42 PM
      - Heh, heh. - Bowser - 8/25/2006 8:20:09 PM
        
        So why didn't he do your chart? - Lindy - 8/26/2006 1:04:51 AM
        
        Why is "got" spelled "g - o - t" and "caught" spelled "c - a - u - g - h - t" - Laurie Street - 8/25/2006 11:19:04 PM

So a politician decides to come clean.... - RobVG - 9/2/2006 6:50:31 PM
- For the record... - deacon - 9/2/2006 7:27:53 PM
  - It was that obvious? - RobVG - 9/2/2006 7:56:04 PM
- It all depends on what the definition of... - ER - 9/2/2006 7:17:52 PM

The American Iranian connection....in space - Raoul - 8/31/2006 6:21:47 PM
- Anything that empowers women from islamic nations is a very good thing. - Buck Galaxy - 9/2/2006 7:01:03 AM
  - re: Anything that empowers women from islamic nations is a very good thing. - ER - 9/2/2006 7:23:59 PM
    - re: Sultan Al Saud june 85 - Raoul - 9/2/2006 7:35:43 PM
      - Considering your interest... - ER - 9/2/2006 7:49:12 PM
- re: The American Iranian connection....in space - McFly - 9/1/2006 5:35:40 PM
- And "enriched Iranian", I see. What's the problem with that? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/1/2006 5:01:31 AM

IAU Should Be Disbanned As A Scientific Body - Mark Eby - 8/27/2006 2:36:41 PM
- It's only a freaking lump of ice. Get over it... - nick hoffman - 8/31/2006 8:33:06 AM
  - Earth Is Only A Lump Of Rock Compared To Jupiter - Mark Eby - 9/1/2006 1:39:58 AM
- Still off the med's I see.... :) - et - 8/30/2006 12:55:54 AM
  - When Did You Stop Taking Them? (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/1/2006 1:41:39 AM
  - no 'anti-inflated-ego' meds around yet, AFAIK (n/t) - Arrogant-Jerk Detector - 8/30/2006 7:45:30 PM
- Human/chicken procreation: clearly impossible. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/28/2006 6:14:52 PM
- What's the problem? - Bowser - 8/28/2006 4:38:20 PM
- How about... - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2006 6:24:35 PM
  - That's been done...sorta - FrankC - 8/27/2006 7:35:27 PM
  - *ouch* Good one, Tom! (n/t) - Fox - 8/27/2006 7:22:06 PM

The problem with Muslims living in the West. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2006 1:59:33 PM
- London subway bombings? You're upset over that? - Bowser - 8/25/2006 12:38:30 AM
  - How do you propose to stop terrorist acts by muslims? (n/t) - SDF - 8/25/2006 4:17:15 AM
    - re: Several straightforward ways - Raoul - 8/25/2006 7:57:01 AM
      - Fundamental Problem - Mark Eby - 8/27/2006 2:44:52 PM
      - Was Afganistan such a soverien country? - Scott Evil - 8/25/2006 7:02:30 PM
        
        re: When the UN agrees like it was the case against Iraq in 90 and Afghanistan in 01 (n/t) - Raoul - 8/25/2006 7:48:54 PM
    - Fer starters, stop terrorist acts by uniformed Westerners. - Bowser - 8/25/2006 5:19:36 AM
      - Remember when you were telling us the War in Afganistan was about building some stupid oil pipeline? - Scott Evil - 8/25/2006 7:04:10 PM
        
        And why else? Still waiting for that reason. - Bowser - 8/25/2006 8:26:15 PM
      - What about the recent attack by Hezbollah on Israel ? - SDF - 8/25/2006 1:49:45 PM
        
        Easy. Stop Israel's ethnic cleansing. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/25/2006 2:52:15 PM
        
        Give an example of "Israel's ethnic cleansing". (n/t) - SDF - 8/25/2006 3:10:00 PM
        
        They are endless. - Bowser - 8/25/2006 4:13:50 PM
        
        You may be right - SDF - 8/26/2006 1:34:19 PM
        
        No, the accusation that Israel practices "ethnic cleansing" is completely absurd - sz - 8/26/2006 2:03:21 PM
        
        The largest fraction are forced to live in the West Bank or Gaza Strip - SDF - 8/27/2006 1:59:50 PM
        
        The Gaza Strip is not Israel - sz - 8/28/2006 3:30:05 AM
        
        re: Discriminations - Raoul - 8/26/2006 8:16:21 PM
        
        Discrimination exists in every country - sz - 8/27/2006 12:23:57 AM
        
        So how would you stop the terrorist acts by muslims? (n/t) - SDF - 8/27/2006 2:03:52 PM
        
        First persuade Muslims to adopt a more modern and civilized interpretation - sz - 8/28/2006 3:14:49 AM
        
        Well, fat chance of that - SDF - 8/28/2006 1:14:53 PM
- Hope nobody tells my neighbors how evil they are! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/24/2006 2:51:06 PM

The pointlessness of the argument on terrorism - FrankC - 8/22/2006 6:17:49 PM
- re: The pointlessness of the argument on terrorism - Robert - 8/23/2006 7:55:39 PM
- I'll weigh in on this great thread - Buck Galaxy - 8/23/2006 8:15:23 AM
  - re: Should we... - Raoul - 8/23/2006 8:55:51 AM
    - I don't think the Kissinger example makes the point you're looking for. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 7:23:33 PM
    - re:How do we make the difference between a fanatic and a responsible one? - Scott Evil - 8/23/2006 1:56:42 PM
- re: The pointlessness of the argument on war against terrorism - Raoul - 8/22/2006 11:31:33 PM
  - Your statement ignores the fact that Certain NationStates can and do Support Terrorism and the Terrorists. - Scott Evil - 8/23/2006 1:43:26 PM
    - re: That needs solid proof... - Raoul - 8/23/2006 3:53:18 PM
  - Terrorists do not represent a country, nor do they even represent a religion - FrankC - 8/23/2006 2:37:07 AM
  - Raoul, they cannot understand that the killing of innocents creates resentment. - Bowser - 8/23/2006 1:53:03 AM
- That would be a pointless argument! - alcaray - 8/22/2006 9:08:06 PM
  - Just for starters... - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 1:51:02 AM
    - foreign aid - azstrummer - 8/23/2006 6:34:35 PM
    - Hmmm, writing a check doesn't seem to be effective then? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/23/2006 3:14:35 PM
    - re: Palestinians are decent people - Raoul - 8/23/2006 9:08:12 AM
  - Well alcaray.... - FrankC - 8/22/2006 9:34:01 PM
    - re: "Where they are concerned, the only way we become the good guys..." - alcaray - 8/22/2006 9:38:19 PM
  - Well, ok. Raoul and who else? - alcaray - 8/22/2006 9:27:25 PM
    - re: Indeed, with time - Raoul - 8/23/2006 4:02:13 PM
      - I don't think I would give Sadat the title of terrorist. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/23/2006 5:30:08 PM
        
        re: It wasn't him... - Raoul - 8/23/2006 5:41:42 PM
        
        I would not include him, either. Any more than I would include Churchill and FDR and Reagan. - alcaray - 8/23/2006 5:47:17 PM
        
        Just from memory.. - FrankC - 8/23/2006 6:01:40 PM
        
        Gee, Frank.....difficult to consider the King David Hotel as a "military target" or a British position..... (n/t) - Publius - 8/24/2006 9:38:48 PM
        
        Once again from memory .... - FrankC - 8/25/2006 5:17:15 AM
        
        That is pretty thin......... - Publius - 8/25/2006 1:55:45 PM
        
        one man's terrorist attack is often another's pre-emptive strike. - FrankC - 8/25/2006 6:46:08 PM
        
        and BTW - FrankC - 8/25/2006 5:33:25 AM
        
        BTW - Publius - 8/26/2006 8:18:06 PM
        
        Sure, and I'm aware of the exploits of the Irgun and Stern gangs - alcaray - 8/23/2006 9:26:29 PM
- re: The pointlessness of the argument on terrorism - ER - 8/22/2006 7:20:15 PM
  - I stopped believing in Virgins back in High School (n/t) - Amidilliah al Ridijadijih - 8/22/2006 9:46:42 PM
    - P.S. This is why I left Islam - Amidilliah al Ridijadijih - 8/22/2006 10:00:28 PM
  - China - FrankC - 8/22/2006 7:52:04 PM
    - I agree - Buck Galaxy - 8/23/2006 7:38:32 AM
- re: The pointlessness of the argument on terrorism - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 7:02:11 PM
  - more than enough evidence to come to a conclusion - FrankC - 8/22/2006 7:38:34 PM
    - I see your point. A more precise statement: - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2006 1:48:51 AM
      - When you stop putting words in people's mouths... - Publius - 8/26/2006 8:41:47 PM
  - Frankly, we agree completely. - Bowser - 8/22/2006 7:27:13 PM

The Problem with the Left - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/19/2006 9:09:57 PM
- speaking as one on the left, I wonder what ever happened to Bin Laden? - Publius - 8/20/2006 11:19:00 PM
  - Rove or someone like him used to say something like... - alcaray - 8/21/2006 5:03:21 PM
    - They got him right where they want him - loose. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/21/2006 6:47:36 PM
      - He's probabaly on the long-term.......... - Lindy - 8/21/2006 7:06:31 PM
  - Because our #1 ally in the war on terror... - ER - 8/21/2006 3:26:29 AM
  - re: I wonder what ever happened to Bin Laden? - Tom Brosz - 8/21/2006 1:54:53 AM
    - Gee, Tom doesn't the failure to capture or kill Bin Laden attest to an incompetency in the Bush admin.? (n/t) - Publius - 8/21/2006 4:52:37 PM
    - If they caught him, what would be the excuse for being in Afghanistan? - Bowser - 8/21/2006 2:14:35 AM
- Bow says there are those that agree with you, but Tom isn't one of them...... - Publius - 8/20/2006 5:44:49 PM
  - re: Tom isn't one of them...... - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2006 8:59:19 PM
  - re: Bow says there are those that agree with you, but Tom isn't one of them...... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/20/2006 6:24:39 PM
    - The mind of Tech: hell on earth - alcaray - 8/21/2006 10:27:13 PM
      - What filth? That was 100% on the mark - even the funny stuff. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/24/2006 4:58:08 AM
      - Don't pick on Tech 1, he is saying what the voices tell him to say........ (n/t) - Publius - 8/22/2006 2:20:17 PM
      - Scary, isn't it? That some people can be so out of touch with reality - Lindy - 8/21/2006 11:42:17 PM
        
        Not touching THAT one. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 4:54:09 AM
    - I'm beginning to see the value of the public educational system. - Scott Evil - 8/21/2006 2:03:20 PM
    - "Sheer Genius", you say - Lindy - 8/20/2006 9:16:38 PM
      - That's the point isn't it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/20/2006 11:02:26 PM
    - PS That one 'Iran' should read 'Iraq' ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/20/2006 6:27:52 PM
- You're not alone in that. - Bowser - 8/20/2006 2:04:54 PM
  - What a hoot Bowz......... - Lindy - 8/20/2006 3:31:53 PM
- If America is not afraid to sacrifice... - Mary Anne - 8/20/2006 1:49:31 PM
  - re: If America is not afraid to sacrifice... - gbaikie - 8/21/2006 1:04:09 AM
- "The left is too self-absorbed and provincial to see the benefits we've achieved for the people of Iraq or to see the good George Bush has done for the world" - Lindy - 8/19/2006 9:36:11 PM
  - re: "The left is too self-absorbed and provincial to see the benefits we've achieved for the people of Iraq or to see the good George Bush has done for the world" - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/19/2006 11:02:28 PM
    - Oh crap... You just gave them the idea of putting the Department of Homeland Scurity under the IRS. - Ted Kennedy - 8/21/2006 1:53:15 PM
    - There's not much to argue with there - Lindy - 8/19/2006 11:37:38 PM
- "The outside world exists, but as a backdrop for their collections" - Lindy - 8/19/2006 9:31:20 PM
- The Problem with the Hard Right - Lindy - 8/19/2006 9:13:43 PM
  - Flatlanders and spheres, again. - Bowser - 8/19/2006 9:28:48 PM

Its time to face reality. The Left wing wants the USA to lose the war on Terror. - Scott Evil - 8/18/2006 2:14:09 PM
- It's the Right that gave us an enormous distraction in the War on Islamic Terror - Iraq - sz - 8/19/2006 3:29:55 AM
  - re: enormous distraction in the War on Islamic Terror - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2006 3:57:24 PM
- Re: facing reality: Do give us a ring on your cell when you turn around and see it. - Mary Anne - 8/18/2006 10:15:26 PM
  - You mean Jimmy Carter didn't try to appease the Iranian Government in 1979? - Scott Evil - 8/18/2006 10:36:12 PM
    - re: You mean Jimmy Carter didn't try to appease the Iranian Government in 1979? - ER - 8/19/2006 12:55:19 AM
      - R. Reagan appeased the Iranian government, remember? (n/t) - Bowser - 8/21/2006 3:22:12 PM
    - OK, I get it: lack of nuclear bombing =appeasement. - Mary Anne - 8/18/2006 11:23:46 PM
      - Maybe you should read a few of those "screeds" with an open mind. - Scott Evil - 8/22/2006 2:46:32 PM
        
        take a breath (n/t) - alcaray - 8/22/2006 3:13:58 PM
        
        ok I took a breath. - Scott Evil - 8/22/2006 10:04:07 PM
        
        You are quite the wit. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/22/2006 10:31:17 PM
- You lost me at "War on Terror" - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 7:40:35 PM
  - You know, sorta like the "War on Drugs" - Publius - 8/19/2006 1:52:51 AM
    - or how about, the "War on Poverty" (n/t) - Publius - 8/20/2006 5:48:08 PM
      - A good non-partisan effort, that. :) (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/20/2006 7:45:18 PM
        
        John Stewart said that after we had kicked terrorism's a$$, we would start in on ennui (n/t) - alcaray - 8/21/2006 5:13:51 PM
  - I guess all those terrorist bombings and declarations of war are all figments of my paranoid imagination. - Scott Evil - 8/18/2006 10:30:13 PM
    - re: I guess all those terrorist bombings and declarations of war are all figments of my paranoid imagination. - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 10:45:54 PM
      - "If they show up at our borders with weapons I'll be first in line." - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2006 10:59:49 PM
        
        re: "If they show up at our borders with weapons I'll be first in line." - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 11:08:45 PM
- Wow! Things look great for November considering the quality of the opposition. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/18/2006 5:13:50 PM
- re:You are a complete idiot! We love the USA and it's ideals more than any right wind nut case! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/18/2006 5:06:17 PM
- "If you buy into any of the above ..........." - Lindy - 8/18/2006 4:42:47 PM
- re: Its time to face reality. The Right wing is losing the war on Terror. - Robert - 8/18/2006 3:43:19 PM
  - You are a sad example of what I'm talking about. - Scott Evil - 8/18/2006 10:26:06 PM
    - You are a sad example of what I'm talking about. - Robert - 8/19/2006 4:39:34 PM
      - EXCELLENT POST, Robert!! - Lindy - 8/19/2006 5:39:10 PM
        
        from the heart - Robert - 8/19/2006 8:39:10 PM
        
        re: from the heart - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2006 10:13:28 PM
        
        re: from the heart - Robert - 8/20/2006 6:25:07 PM
        
        Okay then... - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2006 9:13:15 PM
        
        re: "I have often been asked how many U.S. casualties I would accept in Iraq before surrendering." - alcaray - 8/21/2006 6:03:28 PM
        
        re: "I have often been asked how many U.S. casualties I would accept in Iraq before surrendering." - Tom Brosz - 8/21/2006 11:22:45 PM
        
        The lie, if there is one, is in the word "surrender". (n/t) - alcaray - 8/21/2006 11:26:08 PM
        
        Oh, sorry. "redeploy over the horizon." - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 4:56:23 AM
        
        We will do it some time. - alcaray - 8/22/2006 3:08:13 PM
        
        re: Okay then... - Robert - 8/21/2006 3:36:50 PM
        
        You didn't actually write anything of substance - Tom Brosz - 8/21/2006 11:14:19 PM
        
        You didn't actually write anything of substance - Robert - 8/22/2006 5:18:14 PM
        
        re: substance - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 6:53:10 PM
        
        re: You didn't actually write anything of substance - azstrummer - 8/21/2006 11:44:49 PM
        
        re: substance - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 5:09:29 AM
        
        re: You didn't actually write anything of substance - Lindy - 8/22/2006 1:34:39 AM
        
        Next DNC talking point: 911 Didn't happen. - Scott Evil - 8/21/2006 1:38:30 PM
        
        That point is getting close... - Tom Brosz - 8/21/2006 11:16:39 PM
        
        re: That point is getting close... - azstrummer - 8/21/2006 11:58:53 PM
        
        Q.E.D. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2006 5:11:03 AM
        
        See: you do know how to declare victory and prance off. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/22/2006 9:28:31 PM
        
        That should be Eric, not Carl. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2006 12:50:39 AM
        
        ""a band of ideologues believed that their cause served a higher purpose than the laws that governed them." - Lindy - 8/19/2006 9:28:44 PM
    - re: You are a sad example of what I'm talking about. - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 11:07:04 PM
  - re: It's time to face reality. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2006 6:38:12 PM
    - Working security programs - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 7:58:41 PM
      - Yeah the Dems aern't insecure: just ask the japanese internment camp victims. - Scott Evil - 8/18/2006 10:34:04 PM
        
        The Democrats *learned* from the internment camps. The Republicans *learned how* from the internment camps. - Mary Anne - 8/18/2006 11:47:12 PM
      - re: Working security programs - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2006 10:20:42 PM
        
        FBI, Internment - azstrummer - 8/18/2006 11:15:35 PM
- Here's a laxative Scott......... - Lindy - 8/18/2006 2:55:58 PM

Ayn Rand - "Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive." - Bowser - 8/22/2006 6:20:19 AM

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